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I have done my research and could so far only identify door sills for my 49 in a price region others would buy an entire engine for :-)

Is this 450/ 500 plus shipping price point offering rally the only option on the market for a reproduction item?

 

I certainly hope not. :-(

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Do door sills have a sealing function? If not I could obviously also use a chrome/ aluminum alternative.

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Thomba, when you say "door sills" do you mean the stamped/decorative metal covers that screw onto the rockers?.........andyd

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I actually mean the rubber ones - but the one on my car are cracking everywhere. So I would love to replace them with the original type, but not for 500 USD plus shipping. So maybe the alternative could be chromish metal covers. Yes so you are right.

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Thanks Thomba, I wasn't aware that they were a molded rubber...........apologies if I've confused the issue............andyd 

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These rubber sill mats?  These are from a 52 Dodge thought.

 

Yes, reproduction is all I have see too. Luckily mine are in good shape. My friend and I have talked about trying to make a mold from these and attempting to cast new ones. It would probably fail miserably though.

 

Another thought is to fine a ribbed rubber mat and screw it to the sills

 

Greg

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Lucky you - mine are prone to cracking by purely looking at them :-)

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Coming back to the original question : do door sills have a sealing function as well? Should I go for a chrome plated route such a sealing function would not be provided anymore. 

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   I know reproduction items for these old Chrysler products tend be costlier than those for an old Ford, or Chevy. That said—I’ve notice that everyone who discusses doorsills refer to them being rubber. Our ’46 DeLuxe Club Coupe has metal ones, and not some poor home-made attempt. Rather, they’re extremely nice, folded edges, ribbed at each end for the windlace to go underneath, shallower ribs on the main surface for structural rigidity. At first, upon learning that other’s were rubber, I tho’t they were the backing for the rubber cladding, but the shape of ours doesn’t correspond to photos of the rubber ones I’ve seen. I’m confused . . . any tho’ts??? I know this didn’t answer your initial question, but the idea of making a nice set out of aluminum, or stainless steel, or even plain steel and painting them, might be an acceptable alternative, and one that’s not so costly. However, if you’re doing a concours-type restoration, than this idea isn’t applicable.

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9 hours ago, Thomba48 said:

Coming back to the original question : do door sills have a sealing function as well? Should I go for a chrome plated route such a sealing function would not be provided anymore. 

I don't believe the sills offer any sealing function of the door, rather more of a windlace function. I see no adverse effects from installing a thinner metal version. I think an aluminun or stainless panel would be very nice. 

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After watching a few rubber casting videos on youtube, I'm sure it would probably be easier to knock out some copies of those pristine ones above than a metal alternate. It's not nearly as complex a form as the examples you find in the DYI videos. 

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The doors are sealed to the body by the rubber weather-stripping around the perimeter of the door. As I’ve been told, the purpose of the door sill plate is to protect the carpet at the high-wear area at the door. It also acts as an anchor for the carpet, and the windlace surrounding the door opening (if there is any).

 

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Anybody knows what later model door still plates would work from a dimensional point of view? Here is just one example of many available. It could look nice and would certainly be way less expensive:

https://moparplus.com/interior/door-sill-plates/

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I made sills for my 50 Ply wagon out of 1/8" aluminum. They do have a taper and making a template from cardboard was needed first. After getting them done I had them powder coated in a flat aluminum look.

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On 1/12/2018 at 12:11 PM, Thomba48 said:

I have done my research and could so far only identify door sills for my 49 in a price region others would buy an entire engine for :-)

Is this 450/ 500 plus shipping price point offering rally the only option on the market for a reproduction item?

 

I certainly hope not. :-(

Hallo Thromba48, Wie gehts? I have a spare set of 1951 Plymouth Suburban sill rubber in remarkably good condition-I bought a bunch of '51 parts off a person who was parting out his wagon a few years ago. Not sure if they would fit your '49- I've attached a picture. PM me if interested.

Danke,

Bob

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When they are removed it leaves a lot of 1 in holes that have to be sealed. Just took my 51club apart and am looking for a pair myself

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Too bad the ones being repopped are so expensive.

 

I wonder if there are not enough of us in need of these that a member here might step up to make some ?

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