56Alan Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just recently replaced/ upgraded the brakes and 500miles down the line the standard Raybestos rear cylinders are leaking fluid. I would take them back for replacements but as I am in the UK it's easer said than done. My question is has anyone modified the back plates and fitted a better cylinder from say a jeep or something which I stand a good chance of getting in the UK? If I get desperate I might consider an axle upgrade, at least this would give me self centering shoes, any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knuckleharley Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-12222-Brake-Cylinder-Repair/dp/B001PXYP52/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1492280956&vehicle=1948-43-4810-20-----------25-0&sr=1-1&ymm=1948%3Aplymouth%3Ap15+special+deluxe&keywords=wheel+cylinders There are USD on Amazon. Do a search using that parts number,as well as the parts number of the wheel cylinders you bought on the British Amazon and see what pops up. If nothing else it might save you a bundle on shipping. BTW,the key here is to find the original parts number,and then doing a search on the Amazon site as well as similar sites using that number. I was looking at having to pay 90 bucks each for new wheel cylinders for my 1939 IHC pu a couple of years ago,and then ran the parts number and discovered it was the same wheel cylinder used by 1953 and 1954 Corvettes,and they were not only in stock but were less than 5 USD each for BRAND NEW Lockheed wheel cylinders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Due to how cheap Americans seem to be getting when price shopping all the current new wheel cylinders being sold for our old Mopars are Chinese and might last up to 2 years ...........then will leak and wipe out those newly relined shoes with less than 5000 miles on them. I know from lots of experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knuckleharley Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 The ones I bought from Amazon for my 39 IHC pu are still working perfectly 3+ years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 God is watching over you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 did you save the original WC? You can have the original resleaved. rich hartung 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) Resleeving is the way to go. I have had many cylinders, both wheel and master cylinders, resleeved and never had a problem since. No need to worry about pitting down the road either. In fact, I am installing a set of resleeved wheel cylinders and a master cylinder in my 1951 Dodge D39 business coupe project right now. Lots of places out there that do it but I have had mine done at White Post Restoration and been more than satisfied. I am in no way affiliated with them, just a satisfied customer. Quot Edited April 16, 2017 by RobertKB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Alan Posted April 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Looks like sleeving is the best option but didn't keep the old cylinders. I suppose I could get the leaky raybestos ones done ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 I guess the best information for allmember is that when you are taking an original part out of your truck or car and it is a mopar part just keep them or it in a used box. Sometime they can be rebuilt and this goes for most parts. If you have the original then these are better than the new Asian junk that is being reproed. Just my 25cents worth of information. Rich Hartung 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, desoto1939 said: I guess the best information for allmember is that when you are taking an original part out of your truck or car and it is a mopar part just keep them or it in a used box. Sometime they can be rebuilt and this goes for most parts. If you have the original then these are better than the new Asian junk that is being reproed. Just my 25cents worth of information. Rich Hartung Ditto. It can also include well known brand names from the past that were made in the USA or Canada before outsourcing became prevalent. Most of the time they were of far better quality than modern reproduction parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarv69 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I have all the original old wheel cyl for front and rear been soaking in oil for a week now look in good shape, no signs of damage, plan on rebuilding them all myself with me pistons and rubber, I see lots avail online but thought to as anyone with experience in somewhere good that doesn't sell junk? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarv69 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 2:41 PM, desoto1939 said: did you save the original WC? You can have the original resleaved. rich hartung Resleaved, this something one can do themselves considering they have an idea of what they're doing? Who sells the sleeves and new pistons for that matter that's trusting? Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 You will not be able to re-sleeve them yourself. Requires special tooling and plenty of sleeving experience. The sleeves must be installed tight and with precision. Use Hagens or Whitepost for this rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Ill donate my full set of nearly new cylinders front and back for the cost of shipping to the first member who contacts me. They are doing nothing out in the shed... Edited April 21, 2017 by dale Added to it.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarv69 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Hi Dale, what a great thing man, says a lot about your character and passion for these old cars. I just sent you an email as well I can be reached anytime at # below. im restoring our 48 with my son and will put to good use. V/R chris 562-310-7240 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMopar Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 I'm in Blighty , if my brakes go tits up . It HAMB Explorer front disc conversion and full Explorer rear axle for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingster Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 About how much does White Post charge per cylinder to re-sleeve? They don't seem to list prices on their site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Bingster said: About how much does White Post charge per cylinder to re-sleeve? They don't seem to list prices on their site. Best answer would be found by contacting them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingster Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Sorry, I thought this board was for that type of information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Since wheel cylinders and can step downs which means that there are two different sizes in a single cylinder then there is additional machining that has to be done versus a single sized cylinder. As the price for materials and labor increase a company that doses this type of work does not want to quote a price and then have to increase the price. So as done has stated it is better to call the company and ask for a quote directly from them. I have visited White Post and toured their facility and they have very good craftsman. Rich Hartung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) I just had White Post do all wheel cylinders and the master cylinder for my 1951 Dodge D39 business coupe. This was last December. Wheel cylinders were $85 each and MC was $175. At first seems pricey but new wheel cylinders were not cheap either and of unknown quality. The cylinders I sent had sat for years and even with compressed air I could not get them apart. They came back looking new. I know they are the same cylinders as I had marked them all. The price includes sleeving with brass and replacing all rubber and anything else they deem necessary to replace. They are ready to bolt on and use. I should never have to worry again about brake cylinders. I have used White Post three times now and am a very satisfied customer. Turn around time is fast too. Edited April 23, 2017 by RobertKB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingster Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Thank you RobertKB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightmo52 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 i bought mine on ebay, working great for over 6 years and they were made in china. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiccarjack Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I sent my original set out to get sleeved in stainless steel.... & I had my friends Power Wagon sleeved in Bronze. It has been 6 years with no issues. Do you have any good machine shops out there? There has to be someone who can sleeve your original wheel cylinders for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiccarjack Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/22/2017 at 4:18 PM, RobertKB said: I just had White Post do all wheel cylinders and the master cylinder for my 1951 Dodge D39 business coupe. This was last December. Wheel cylinders were $85 each and MC was $175. At first seems pricey but new wheel cylinders were not cheap either and of unknown quality. The cylinders I sent had sat for years and even with compressed air I could not get them apart. They came back looking new. I know they are the same cylinders as I had marked them all. The price includes sleeving with brass and replacing all rubber and anything else they deem necessary to replace. They are ready to bolt on and use. I should never have to worry again about brake cylinders. I have used White Post three times now and am a very satisfied customer. Turn around time is fast too. White Post is a good Company. Another great Company is: http://www.karpspowerbrake.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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