WarriorDog Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Got this truck last summer under the impression it had been running recently. That wasn't the case. Finally got some time to get started on it in the past few weeks. The day I brought it home Surface rust under the doors Dash is in good shape. Original key still unlocks the passenger door. Floor boards are in good shape too Edited February 16, 2017 by WarriorDog 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorDog Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) I tried to free up the engine with no success. I found a used 218 from a 53 Plymouth Cranbrook close by and got a transmission with it. The new engine has a newly built Electronic ignition distributor and already converted to 12 volt charging system. I'm taking the new engine to a friends house this weekend to make sure it runs and has good compression. I'll leave it at his house until I'm ready to install it. Gonna go ahead and replace all the gaskets while it's out. Get the oil pan flipped around and replace the Water pump etc. Edited February 16, 2017 by WarriorDog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rogers Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Congratulations, what a great looking truck.What a awesome find. I bet you cant wait to be able to get in and take it for its first drive. John Edited February 16, 2017 by John Rogers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowl Jeff Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 NICE looking truck! Welcome aboard! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Welcome! And nice survivor! little to no rust good find! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdome Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, WarriorDog said: Get the oil pan flipped around and replace the Water pump etc. Couldn't you just swap the oil pans? Nice looking truck by the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBNeal Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I second the oil pan swap, as well as relocating the oil sump...when you pull the stuck motor, remove its oil pan to get a look at how the sump is configured, ya might have to swap those out too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorDog Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 50 minutes ago, Silverdome said: Couldn't you just swap the oil pans? Nice looking truck by the way. Yeah, I'm gonna swap the pan that's in the truck now with the one on the new engine. Should have said "Swapped out". Thanks fellas, for the input. Much appreciated. I've got the hood off and the front end is completely unbolted. I'm gonna set the front end off inside the fenced backyard tonight and then get a sawhorse type stand for the bed to rest on for removal this weekend. Not planning on removing the cab. I'm just trying to make it easier to get to the brakes, rear end, suspension and gas tank with the front and rear removed. It doesnt have any brake pedal pressure at the moment. Gotta pull the drums and see if they're reuseable and just replace if the wheel cylinders and master cylinder while it's apart, etc. I really dont want to put a lot of money into getting it roadworthy. Brakes, tires, shocks, gas tank, replace wood bed, redo the door glass felt etc. I worked for UPS for 38 years and retired 2 years ago. Wifey and I have opened a clothing boutique in Chattanooga TN and we want to use the truck for advertising and photo background prop for our store. Probably wont drive it 400 miles a year. I'll probably paint it with some hot rod flat black and have wheels and some parts powder coated in a flat low lustre gold accent. I want to get the store name along with Facebook and Instagram logos on the doors and bed and make it look like it's a 50 year old store truck. Any suggestions on a rust inhibitor to apply to the frame while it's apart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, WarriorDog said: Yeah, I'm gonna swap the pan that's in the truck now with the one on the new engine. Should have said "Swapped out". Thanks fellas, for the input. Much appreciated. I've got the hood off and the front end is completely unbolted. I'm gonna set the front end off inside the fenced backyard tonight and then get a sawhorse type stand for the bed to rest on for removal this weekend. Not planning on removing the cab. I'm just trying to make it easier to get to the brakes, rear end, suspension and gas tank with the front and rear removed. It doesnt have any brake pedal pressure at the moment. Gotta pull the drums and see if they're reuseable and just replace if the wheel cylinders and master cylinder while it's apart, etc. I really dont want to put a lot of money into getting it roadworthy. Brakes, tires, shocks, gas tank, replace wood bed, redo the door glass felt etc. I worked for UPS for 38 years and retired 2 years ago. Wifey and I have opened a clothing boutique in Chattanooga TN and we want to use the truck for advertising and photo background prop for our store. Probably wont drive it 400 miles a year. I'll probably paint it with some hot rod flat black and have wheels and some parts powder coated in a flat low lustre gold accent. I want to get the store name along with Facebook and Instagram logos on the doors and bed and make it look like it's a 50 year old store truck. Any suggestions on a rust inhibitor to apply to the frame while it's apart? My opinion only but if you intend to use it for promotion of your store I'd leave the body 100% as it is and just get some logos painted on the doors. I believe the weathered look would attract more attention than the hot rod new paint. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorDog Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Young Ed said: My opinion only but if you intend to use it for promotion of your store I'd leave the body 100% as it is and just get some logos painted on the doors. I believe the weathered look would attract more attention than the hot rod new paint. I've thought about leaving the paint alone. What would you guys do with the wheels? Bumpers? Lots of rust showing on the white wheels and bumpers. Leave them, too? The black paint doesn't really have the rust colored patina that most find appealing. And the rusty white parts just dont quite fit in my opinion. Edited February 17, 2017 by WarriorDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I certainly wouldn't leave the tires. I'd probably paint the wheels too if there is rust in the bead area. Don't want leakers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBNeal Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 My tires were 25+ yrs old when I got the '48 running, so I tossed the old tires, sandblasted primed and krylon rattle canned semigloss black to the rims and put new tubes and tires on the cleaned up rims...the bias ply tires lasted 10 yrs (10k miles), only had 2 flats, and the paint still looks good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorDog Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 What about those bumpers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 All of the clothing catalogs I see have distressed trucks and cars in them. Keep it real, new paint is for those who put bodies on new frames. Old frame old body, old paint. Hit the rusty spots with CLR and let the rest shine through. You'll get more curb appeal with original than redone. Just sayin. Best of luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBNeal Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 You can prime and paint the bumpers with rustoleum and a foam paint brush...follow the directions to the letter, take your time, and that refurb will only cost a few bucks...l painted a 500 gallon LPG tank using this method, and over 5 yrs later of sitting in the scorching TX sun, it is still a shiny aluminum color, with no old rust bleed thru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorDog Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, JBNeal said: You can prime and paint the bumpers with rustoleum and a foam paint brush...follow the directions to the letter, take your time, and that refurb will only cost a few bucks...l painted a 500 gallon LPG tank using this method, and over 5 yrs later of sitting in the scorching TX sun, it is still a shiny aluminum color, with no old rust bleed thru I can get rid of the rust. I have a friend with a powder coat business that I use frequently. He can sandblast them and get the rust off. Just trying to think about what coating/colors to put back once the rusty / white paint is gone? Maybe a bronze patina color powder coat? I'm not set on anything yet. I'm just seeking some input/suggestions for the bumpers, wheels, maybe the 3 grill strips, the parking light rings, headlight rings, etc. I thought seriously about replacing the front bulkhead bed panel and tailgate with something from Mar-K. If I do that then I'll need to get some coating/color on the bare metal. Ideas? I want to shout out a Thank You to GGDad for offering some of his spare parts up for sale. I've been told by quite a few people, other than just here, to leave the body/paint alone. And I'm leaning that way. Just not sure how it will look with old paint on the body and new colors/coatings on wheels, bumpers, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 12 hours ago, JPP said: All of the clothing catalogs I see have distressed trucks and cars in them. Keep it real, new paint is for those who put bodies on new frames. Old frame old body, old paint. Hit the rusty spots with CLR and let the rest shine through. You'll get more curb appeal with original than redone. Just sayin. Best of luck. Or those doing a restoration. Some of these old guys also need body work to be safe so...I wouldn't say your comments fit 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpollo Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Some years ago... back in the 70s, John Jerome wrote a little book called "TRUCK". ...... his adventures with a 50 Dodge .It is an amusing read. I had a look for it this morning to get the ISBN number but to no avail. I am sure it can be foung through Amazon or the like. I would recommend it to anyone with a Pilothouse era truck and a sense of humour. * I found a 1996 edition on Amazon. Has a GM truck on the cover but I am sure it is the same story. The full title is " Truck on rebuilding an old pickup truck and other post-technological adventures" Edited February 17, 2017 by dpollo additional information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Young Ed Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 13 hours ago, JPP said: All of the clothing catalogs I see have distressed trucks and cars in them. Keep it real, new paint is for those who put bodies on new frames. Old frame old body, old paint. Hit the rusty spots with CLR and let the rest shine through. You'll get more curb appeal with original than redone. Just sayin. Best of luck. Agreed if its in decent shape which this one seems to be. You can certainly restore one As GGDad said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBNeal Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 54 minutes ago, dpollo said: Some years ago... back in the 70s, John Jerome wrote a little book called "TRUCK". ...... his adventures with a 50 Dodge .It is an amusing read. I had a look for it this morning to get the ISBN number but to no avail. I am sure it can be foung through Amazon or the like. I would recommend it to anyone with a Pilothouse era truck and a sense of humour. * I found a 1996 edition on Amazon. Has a GM truck on the cover but I am sure it is the same story. The full title is " Truck on rebuilding an old pickup truck and other post-technological adventures" prior discussion about this book with Amazon link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T120 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 51 minutes ago, dpollo said: Some years ago... back in the 70s, John Jerome wrote a little book called "TRUCK". ...... his adventures with a 50 Dodge .It is an amusing read. I had a look for it this morning to get the ISBN number but to no avail. I am sure it can be foung through Amazon or the like. I would recommend it to anyone with a Pilothouse era truck and a sense of humour. * I found a 1996 edition on Amazon. Has a GM truck on the cover but I am sure it is the same story. The full title is " Truck on rebuilding an old pickup truck and other post-technological adventures" I have a copy of the book, "Truck - On Rebuilding A Worn-Out Pickup, And Other Post-Technological Adventures" by John Jerome -( ISBN 0 370 30058 0 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorDog Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) I got the engine out of the 53 Plymouth out of my truck on Thursday. Spent most of the day stripping the block. We turned the engine and heard the compression from the cylinders. Put a battery to the starter and the engine turns. Put some fuel in the carb and started the engie for about 12 seconds. No knocks or anything unusual. So we stripped everything off the engine and made a list of parts to get for replacing. I'm taking the flywheel and head to have machined before reassembly. http://vid296.photobucket.com/albums/mm187/WarriorDog/20170217_124351_zpsu2ejsbmt.mp4 Edited February 19, 2017 by WarriorDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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