Conroe Powdercoating Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 All of this is on a 51 cranbrook, factory stock everything. I did a spring change because during the brake job I noticed the right one had the bottom coil broken off and wedged in there, I dont know when it happened but it was obvious I needed a set of springs and the search was on. I installed a set of the Moog cc850 coil springs. They were 2.5" shorter than the factory springs but they had the car nose up to stock height anyways. Definitely firmer than the stock soft floaters. My basic review is that it needed to come down a wee bit more but it was fine as is but I have a 3" drop in the rear so it was kinda nose up stance with the new springs up front. I put it on the road and holy smokes the car has never driven so nice! It was super stable, floated like a caddy smooth ride but not wafting around and floating around like it used to. These $50 springs was the best thing I have done for my car so far! I love them, Love them so much I figured, what the hell, for $50, lets cut a coil and see how she sits. PERFECT! the ride is amazingly flat nosed around corners, handles smooth as glass, height wise it sits where the fender lip is at the top of my tire(15/215/70) and couldn't be happier with how it looks and rides and handles. This modification gets my 2 thumbs up for its simple install and huge change in the cars attitude, I tamed the floating beast and she liked it! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam H P15 D30 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Did you relocate the shocks also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Powdercoating Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) not yet, I'll make the brackets and have them ready so I can install saturday. Edited July 2, 2014 by Conroe Powdercoating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumpy Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think these old cars like new springs. !!!! Lumpy sure drives and rides better since I got new ones. ken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losthope Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) I recently installed the same springs on my 54 ford to replace the worn out cut coils with the same results WOW what a difference raised the car back up a little but waiting for them to settle, also have them installed on the 49 Plymouth project (not road worthy yet).....all the guys on the 52-54 ford forum that have done this say the springs will settle some after being installed awhile so expect the nose to go down some more when they settle! Edited July 2, 2014 by Losthope 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbound Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 All of this is on a 51 cranbrook, factory stock everything. I did a spring change because during the brake job I noticed the right one had the bottom coil broken off and wedged in there, I dont know when it happened but it was obvious I needed a set of springs and the search was on. I installed a set of the Moog cc850 coil springs. They were 2.5" shorter than the factory springs but they had the car nose up to stock height anyways. Definitely firmer than the stock soft floaters. My basic review is that it needed to come down a wee bit more but it was fine as is but I have a 3" drop in the rear so it was kinda nose up stance with the new springs up front. I put it on the road and holy smokes the car has never driven so nice! It was super stable, floated like a caddy smooth ride but not wafting around and floating around like it used to. These $50 springs was the best thing I have done for my car so far! I love them, Love them so much I figured, what the hell, for $50, lets cut a coil and see how she sits. PERFECT! the ride is amazingly flat nosed around corners, handles smooth as glass, height wise it sits where the fender lip is at the top of my tire(15/215/70) and couldn't be happier with how it looks and rides and handles. This modification gets my 2 thumbs up for its simple install and huge change in the cars attitude, I tamed the floating beast and she liked it! Pics......we need pics!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlrides Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Thanks for this info ! How much coil did you cut vs. drop ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Powdercoating Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) I cut one coil and dropped 2". now she sits level and rides like a champ indeed! I'll take some pictures today in a bit and post em up. Edited July 2, 2014 by Conroe Powdercoating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Powdercoating Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 cc850 springs, chopped 1 coil and 3" blocks in the rear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlrides Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 I cut one coil and dropped 2". now she sits level and rides like a champ indeed! I'll take some pictures today in a bit and post em up. Thanks for the info ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captden29 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 car looks great. I like 4 doors better anyway. can you tell me where you got the skirts? I would like a set for my 54 Windsor. capt den Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Powdercoating Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 I'll have to look and see where I got the skirts at, I checked so may places, I think I found 3 places in my searches and dont really remember off hand, they are fiberglass, well made, the brackets are decent and I had zero issues with them so far. I think they were in the $150 range. I'll look for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlrides Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 can you tell me where you got the skirts? I would like a set for my 54 Windsor. capt den I found a company making reproductions from 20ga steel in Indiana. Very nice guy to deal with. http://agapeautoparts.com/default.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstfish66 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 interesting,,, a lot of different opinions on these coil springs,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Colliau Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Would these be a good fit for a 50 suburban? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Powdercoating Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Would these be a good fit for a 50 suburban? I dont have a clue, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlrides Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I just ordered some for a 49 Suburban. There is only about 100 lbs difference between suburban and a sedan, and that should be in the rear due to the roof. The front should be the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Powdercoating Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I just ordered some for a 49 Suburban. There is only about 100 lbs difference between suburban and a sedan, and that should be in the rear due to the roof. The front should be the same. looking forward to your update with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ194950 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 according to old hollander interchange manual- Ply. 40-50 all except 7 pass. sdn.,limo, stn wagon are the same. 51-51 except suburban. DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I see your hood medallion and base is upside down? Spring work looks good. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Powdercoating Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 I see your hood medallion and base is upside down? Spring work looks good. Bob Holy smokes! I never knew that! I went out with a flashlight and looked at the ship real close, its hard to make out because the small cracks but sure enough, its upside down! I bought the car with it that way, I guess I'll leave it as is, kinda used to it now I reckon. I will search for a new one and flip it when the new paint job phase comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Colliau Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) according to old hollander interchange manual- Ply. 40-50 all except 7 pass. sdn.,limo, stn wagon are the same. 51-51 except suburban. DJ Interesting. I have ordered a pair of the springs. i will report back on the difference if it is obvious. Probably a wire diameter, weight, length deal. My car still sits about an inch too high for my tastes so rather than cutting the stock springs I will experiment with these. Edited July 5, 2014 by Don Colliau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyHarold Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Holy smokes! I never knew that! I went out with a flashlight and looked at the ship real close, its hard to make out because the small cracks but sure enough, its upside down! I bought the car with it that way, I guess I'll leave it as is, kinda used to it now I reckon. I will search for a new one and flip it when the new paint job phase comes. I've seen lots of '51's with upside-down hood medallions, even when these cars were in everyday use. Some people may think they look better that way, and others may have been done by body men slapping a car together after a repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Most people don't have a clue as to the proper way the 51's go. Seen it a hundred times. Doesn't really matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Most people don't have a clue as to the proper way the 51's go. Seen it a hundred times. Doesn't really matter. I thought I saw a blurb once about some of them being delivered from the factory upsidedown on 1950 models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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