Purevil Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Very interesting post... I need to do everything on my 50 Wayfarer 3 P coupe and was considering using a 6.1 or a 6.4 hemi myself. recently sense I can not find a frame (lots of damage from sitting on a hill side), I have toyed with the idea of building one that would use the 06 and up Charger front and rear suspension, engine and transmission. the car itself needs a full workup, body and drive train. I am open to idea's to get this back to working order, but will keep it in the mopar family--- no chevy small block, no ford rearend. This is my first dodge older then 1966. I have done a few 46-72 chevy and fords, and numerous 72-currant of the "big Three" but feed this little stray coupe at the auction and it followed me home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Keith Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 If you can afford the 6.4 you can find a way to make it fit. Its not easy to make even an older 5.7 work in an older car, at least it does not seem so to me. The new motors are even more complex. But I think crate motors are sold that are made to work with a carb, haven't paid much attention to Mopar crate V8s lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 if you get the entire car to use as a donor...about every part can be transferred and retrofitted...it is a task but one that is not hard to complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstfish66 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 hot wires will make u a wiring harness to do what ever u need to do with any magnum or modern hemi project,,any trans to any motor,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Colliau Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) hot wires will make u a wiring harness to do what ever u need to do with any magnum or modern hemi project,,any trans to any motor,,,, Hotwire made a harness for my 1950 Suburban 5.7 project. Very nice work. I needed to buy a forward control module, a 2008 PCM and an abs computer. All these have to be married together and programed to operate. I also had to add a tone ring and sensors to the rear of the transmission. I had to buy a shifter from a late model charger to make the trans work. Then I needed to find a drive shaft from a Ford Ranger and modify it to fit. Then add in Speedway Motors Hemi motor mounts,universal transmission mount kit and Street and Performance block hugger headers. Oh I had to get a rear sump oil pan and pickup, a GM power steering pump and new pulley and put in a Cavalier steering rack. Engine and trans $2800.00. Around $5000.00 to put all this together. Around $7800.00 total. Not cheap but it was what I wanted to do. Don Edited July 28, 2014 by Don Colliau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstfish66 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hotwire made a harness for my 1950 Suburban 5.7 project. Very nice work. I needed to buy a forward control module, a 2008 PCM and an abs computer. All these have to be married together and programed to operate. I also had to add a tone ring and sensors to the rear of the transmission. I had to buy a shifter from a late model charger to make the trans work. Then I needed to find a drive shaft from a Ford Ranger and modify it to fit. Then add in Speedway Motors Hemi motor mounts,universal transmission mount kit and Street and Performance block hugger headers. Oh I had to get a rear sump oil pan and pickup, a GM power steering pump and new pulley and put in a Cavalier steering rack. Engine and trans $2800.00. Around $5000.00 to put all this together. Around $7800.00 total. Not cheap but it was what I wanted to do. Don what was special about the ranger drive shaft ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Douglas Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 About a month ago a Woodies on the Warf in Santa Cruz I saw a very nice 1946 Chrysler T&C Convertible with a Viper engine in it. Walking up to and around the car it looked dead stock. It had a new frame and chassis with the Viper engine in it. I talked with the man for about 15 minutes. Very nice job. The man who owns it also owns "The Goodguys". I have been told by his upholsterer, who did the top for my '49, that the car ran about $250K. Anything can be done. Just depends on how much you can do and how much you have to pay for. James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstfish66 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 About a month ago a Woodies on the Warf in Santa Cruz I saw a very nice 1946 Chrysler T&C Convertible with a Viper engine in it. Walking up to and around the car it looked dead stock. It had a new frame and chassis with the Viper engine in it. I talked with the man for about 15 minutes. Very nice job. The man who owns it also owns "The Goodguys". I have been told by his upholsterer, who did the top for my '49, that the car ran about $250K. Anything can be done. Just depends on how much you can do and how much you have to pay for. James. that town and country was a basket case when he started it,,and he drives it to most good guys events,,, he can afford it im sure lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Colliau Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 what was special about the ranger drive shaft ?? The flange yoke will fit the four finger yoke on the transmission. The shaft also is a slip joint unit. The new transmissions don't have a slip yoke on them. They are a bolt on yoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsturner Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the '52 Chrysler wagon that Icon 4x4 put a 6.1 in: Hot Rod Magazine featured it: http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_1104_the_derelict_1952_chrysler_town_country/ It was on Jay Leno's Garage: And Icon's site has some shots of the bare chassis: http://www.icon4x4.com/dr/derelicts/gallery?c=main Pretty cool car I think. They kept all the modern engine managment (except cylinder deactivation I think) but put some early Hemi valve covers over the 6.1's coil packs. I've thought about doing something similar, and might someday. At this point it's becoming so expensive to rebuild an engine, swapping in a modern one is making more and more sense. I'd get a whole donor car from Copart. 2WD truck might be best because it has an intake manifold with the throttle body facing the side rather than straight into the radiator. Icon just kinked the intake to make it fit, which looks pretty restrictive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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