55 Fargo Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Hi is anyone currently using a 2bbl Webber/Holley carb with an adaptor on original intake. I am currently getting ready to pull manifolds, am contemplating splitting exhaust, but may try a 2bbl carb approach. A few years back, Lou Earle suggesteed this to Me, saying it may be less hassle then setting up dual B&B carbs...Happy New Years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 late 50's Dodge could be found with the stock two bbl...be a bolt on and the setup will have the factory seal of engineering stamped all over it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Tim, I am surprised, 230 short block intake won't fit on my 25 inch engine will it. Those units would not have been plentiful in Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Fred...I often forget about the folks across the border and the extra inches in the block..but I still would guess if this was a US offered animal..there may well be a Canadian counterpart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Hey Tim, that could possibly be true, just have never peronally seen one, did see a factory dual carb set-up on a big truck, should have grabbed it, and did not kicking my you know what on this one. I mostlikely may venture to dual carbs, doing some research and opinions state the 2bbl to 1bbl adaptors are not the best idea. I have a few intakes and exhaust manifolds. I am going to split the exhaust at the very least, and perhaps go with dual or have a 2 bbl intake flange welded onto the intake if that is possible. Tim what do you recommend in looking for a welding shop to weld on cast iron, a lot of places won't do it up here.......thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Anyone ever try this adaptor and 2 bbl carbon their flathead 6. http://www.honestcharley.com/hot-rod-parts/carburetors/univ-1bbl-2bbl-carb-adapter.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Fred...only a few names come up here on the forum as members doing modified intakes/exhaust....I can call out a name or two but if I miss one of them they will feel slighted...that is also not good...even though it would not be a deliberate intention on my part. Hopefully someone here will contact you via PM to assist you in your endeavor. Our current version of search also leaves us lacking at this time with either 365 day history or first 100 returns on the subject search word,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P15-D24 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Our current version of search also leaves us lacking at this time with either 365 day history or first 100 returns on the subject search word,, You should check more often… Now is 1,100 days and 500 results. WIll soon have a new search engine that will end those restrictions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Thanks Gerald...I admit it has been a couple days since I reported to you the limitations..thanks for expanding the parameters...this will be a big big help to the users... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Balazs Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I too am interested in learning more about the possible benefits of a two barrel installation. I have a slightly later 230 in my truck that might make a few more ponies with this setup. It is a fluid drive with what I think is the original DTG1 carb off a 218. I haven't found much info to try and determine if it is even jetted correctly for the 230. I can't help thinking that if it breathed a bit better as the result of using a two barrel it might be really nice. If anyone out there has done a conversion like this it would be great to hear from you. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbound Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Fred, may not be the exact answer you are looking for, I am using the same adapters on my Offy dual carb intake...got them through Langdon's Stovebolt ( http://stoveboltengineco.com/ ) with a pair of the Carter/Weber 2bbl carbs he sells.....about $5 less than the link you provided. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Thanx DB, not sure what direction going in yet, but am going to create split exhaust, and either dual B&Bs, or some kinda 2 bbl with an adaptor or something else to create the end result. Hope all is well in Long Beach.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papajohn Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Hey Deathbound, how do the dual weber/carters run? Is it too much carb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40plyrod Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I split the exhaust on my six and built my own intake manifold much to the same dimensions as the original, and although built as a 3 carb manifold as of right now I'm only running on one holley 94. I haven't done a lot of driving as I'm still in the building phase but it runs very well on a 2 barrel holley 94. Not exactly what your looking for but my 2 cents. You can see it and the video on my build thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48mirage Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 http://s262.photobucket.com/user/jacobsheir/media/Toys/Holley94.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0#/user/jacobsheir/media/Toys/Holley94.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0&_suid=138861418944208067231007572972 '49 Coronet with 230 fluid drive and standard 3 speed transmission. I used a Holley 94 from a 56 Ford Mainline and 272 V8 with an automatic. I had an adaptor made at a local machinist for less than $30.00. I chose this carb because it had the dampner for the fluid drive and the heat tube choke that I could use with the '54 Plymouth exhaust manifold that I added the extra outlet to. If you are not dead set on separating the halves on the exhaust a second outlet can be added without welding on the cast iron. The carb is turned 90 degrees to align the stock accelerator linkage and a fuel pressure regulator was added to reduce the pressure at the float to 2 1/2 lbs. I dropped the jets a couple of sizes on the carb but I'm not sure that was necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I cannot picture what you are saying about the second exhaust outlet? Can you explain this? If I go split exhaust, want it to be tru split exhaust coming off the manifolds, otherwise will stay with single exhaust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Louie Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I used that adapter or one just like it on my stock intake manifold. I put a Weber progressive 2-barrel with elecric choke. It starts right up every time hot or cold and idles perfect. The linkage hooked right up too. I spent a little time messing with the jetting. I also have Langdons headers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Well brother Louie, sounds like you have a good working set-up. How much more punch does this now pack. Got any pics?....thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Louie Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I made a bunch of changes all at once so im not sure of the carbs impact alone. My original carb was in need of a rebuild and although it ran and idled well, it didnt want to start as easily when hot or cold. I have an adapter to allow for a cal-custom full size air cleaner. Give me a minute and ill see if i can figure out how to post the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Thanx Ed, but how much performance difference did you notice? Did you have the cam re-ground or head shaved to boost up the HP some? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Louie Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 I didnt notice any major power difference. I switched rear ends and transmission at the same time so its very hard for me to compare what it would have been with the original carb. I am running an automatic transmission so maybe it helped balance out the power loss? The motor had a old rebuild tag on it when i got it, so im not sure if any modifications were done inside. This is my first and only flathead six so i dont have much to compare it with. I drive it almost daily on the freeway with long hills and up steep driveways and it seems to perform very well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbound Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Thanx DB, not sure what direction going in yet, but am going to create split exhaust, and either dual B&Bs, or some kinda 2 bbl with an adaptor or something else to create the end result. Hope all is well in Long Beach.... All is well here.....weather is perfect! I have 2 stock carbs for my model year that I will eventually run....not crazy about the look of the Carter/Weber carbs. Hey Deathbound, how do the dual weber/carters run? Is it too much carb? They run very well...electric choke (I previously converted to 12V), starts right up-hot or cold, idles smooth. The carbs are from a 1983 Ford Escort or similar with a 1.6 liter engine (about half the size of my 201 c.i. flathead 6), which makes 2 just fine. I went from a single stock carb to dual Carter/Weber carbs/manifold & cast iron headers, then shortly after, changed to a HEI system. It runs great, though it could just be tuned better than before making the changes, as I don't have any info to prove one way or the other. Here is a PDF from Langdon's for the carb: http://pages.suddenlink.net/churchill_toolboards/Langdons%20Carter%20Webers.pdf Edited January 2, 2014 by deathbound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Anyone using the Rusty Hope bolt on exhaust flange for dual exhaust? if you are, can you post comments and pics.? I just got off phone with 1 of the best welding outfits in Winnipeg, there are several, got quoted $300 to cut and weld on a 2nd exhaust flange onto my manifold, a little steep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Anyone using the Rusty Hope bolt on exhaust flange for dual exhaust? if you are, can you post comments and pics.? I just got off phone with 1 of the best welding outfits in Winnipeg, there are several, got quoted $300 to cut and weld on a 2nd exhaust flange onto my manifold, a little steep... Suggest you try the worst shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave72dt Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Used, cast iron exhaust manifolds has to be one of the toughest materials to weld there is and since you'll want a guarantee that it won't crack and fall off the first time you hit a rut or bump, the price isn't that bad. No guarantees, the price can come down. If it was easy to do, it would cost a lot less. The price tells me they really would prefer not doing the work but if you insist, they are going to make it worth there while for the risk they are taking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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