Don Coatney Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Yesterday after I filled my steering box with corn head grease I fired up my car and went for a nice 40 mile drive. Everything worked great. This morning I hopped in the car to pull it out of the garage. I always tromp my brake pedal a time or two before leaving the garage. This time the pedal went almost to the floor before I felt any resistance. It did pump up but did not feel right. I jacked the car up on blocks and looked at al the wheels. They are all dry so the problem must be in my master cylinder. I rebuilt this master culinder 5-6 years ago. Looks like I will be re-building it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) Deleted Edited October 3, 2017 by 55 Fargo Spitfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Flanagan Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Don, can you post pics of whatever you find? I have my 4th of July project and now you have yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Fred Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 don, i feel with you. i'm still having trouble with my master cyl, and it was bought new in february. let's hope you can deal with this the easy way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Flanagan Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 There's a big difference between "Crap" and "Krap." "Crap" is for when something goes a little wrong. "Krap" is for all that other stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-12 Tommy Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Does that mean if you put corn head grease in your steering box, that's shades of things to come? All kidding aside, hope you git 'er fixed. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskies Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 You don't need no stink'n brakes... Full steam ahead! Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted July 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 I was thinkin about driving the car to Indiana on Saturday to pick up 2 or 3 grandkids and bring them home for a week. I am still going but will not drive the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop138 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 I was thinkin about driving the car to Indiana on Saturday to pick up 2 or 3 grandkids and bring them home for a week. I am still going but will not drive the car. Don, good reason to convert to a dual master---safer for the kids...hope ya get er fixed..........Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Bullock Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Hey Don, now you know if you wanted to drive that car you would burn some midnight oil and have it ready by 5:00 am. The stuff we have seen you do is mind bending:) It is nice to have the youngsters in the car shifting gears. Don't let it worry you Don. My 55 Chevy stopped on me today and I can't sleep. I had it towed to Granddad's place and yes pulled the Plymouth out to get home. I think the MSD box has failed. I will test the coil with another I have around here so I will know tomorrow. It's a pity...I wanted to Hot Rod this week end:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Saraceno Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 It's a shame this happened but you are very smart to test the brakes every time before you take her out. BTW... What the heck is "Corn Head Grease"? I've never heard of that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelOkie Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 (edited) BTW... What the heck is "Corn Head Grease"? I've never heard of that before. Agricultural use is for greasing combine headers.Has anyone on the forum (beside the man that posted this) used this method for changing to disk brakes? http://www.dndrodshop.com/disc.htm Edited July 2, 2010 by JoelOkie spellink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted July 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 It's a shame this happened but you are very smart to test the brakes every time before you take her out.BTW... What the heck is "Corn Head Grease"? I've never heard of that before. For an interesting video follow this link. This stuff is Thixotropic. That is always good to know. https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/d...pose_corn_head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Thixotropic[/i]. .Quote]does this have anything to do with call girls close to the equator.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1942cowdodge Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Don do you have one of those master cyclinders that has a cress sleve inside? That seems to be the main problem with these old master cyclinders. That was one of the first big investments in my old Dodge 22 years ago!!!!! Well have fun taking that old bitch down!): Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted July 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Thixotropic[/i]. .Quote]does this have anything to do with call girls close to the equator.. I dont know anything about call girls close to the equator. I was only south of the equator once and I was too young..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Saraceno Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 (edited) This stuff is Thixotropic. Cool beans! I'm going to have to get me some of that stuff for MY steering box! Much better than those other non-Newtonian pseudoplastics! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thixotropic I assume it's sold in Tractor Supply Places so I'll stop by one on my next fishing trip;) Edited July 2, 2010 by Jim Saraceno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelOkie Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Also could probably order it to your door right off the internet. Joel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted July 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Speeking of internet orders I just made 2 attempts to call ECI to inquire about there bolt on dual master cylinter. The phone number from there web site (860) 872-7046 rang and rang and rang but nobody answered?? Anyone have additional numbers for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Don, might be they got an early start for the 4th of July...not sure of where they are but middle Georgia..they long ago shut up shop for the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captden29 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 bought a new master for my 54 windsor. it came sleeved with stainless. should never be a problem as long as i live. price was around $125. can't remember where i got it.dual master is better. a brake line corroded on my 97 grand marqis but i could still drive home because of the dual master. capt den Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james curl Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Don, I ordered the dual master cylinder and bracket for my 48 from ECI and an disappointed, they show two different pictures in the on line catalog. One has an arm made from 1/2" steel bar stock with a 3/4" hole in the top to fit the new pivot bar they furnish with a milled slot for the boss on the lower arm of the pedal to go into. You bolt the new arm to the old arm and then the push-rod fits below the old arm. This setup moves the brake pedal 1/2" over to the center of the car. This is the one they sent me. I think it is Tim Adams on one of his cars has one that is like the other one shown in their catalog. It has an intermediate arm mounted to the extension that holds the pedal assembly and is longer than the arm on the pedal. The push-rod on the pedal goes to the center of the new arm and then a new push rod goes to the new master cylinder which is mounted lower and further back than the original master cylinder and does not move the brake pedal over toward the center of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james49ply Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 I didn't see anyone post the fact that as your disk brakes wear down, the fluid in the master cylinder drops, this is why they have dual setups and the larger resivoir is for the fron disks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatie46 Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 If you have a single pot master cylinder, the E brake is plan B. If plan B fails aim for something soft and cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted July 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Don, I ordered the dual master cylinder and bracket for my 48 from ECI and an disappointed, they show two different pictures in the on line catalog. One has an arm made from 1/2" steel bar stock with a 3/4" hole in the top to fit the new pivot bar they furnish with a milled slot for the boss on the lower arm of the pedal to go into. You bolt the new arm to the old arm and then the push-rod fits below the old arm. This setup moves the brake pedal 1/2" over to the center of the car. This is the one they sent me. I think it is Tim Adams on one of his cars has one that is like the other one shown in their catalog. It has an intermediate arm mounted to the extension that holds the pedal assembly and is longer than the arm on the pedal. The push-rod on the pedal goes to the center of the new arm and then a new push rod goes to the new master cylinder which is mounted lower and further back than the original master cylinder and does not move the brake pedal over toward the center of the car. Thanks James; That is exactly the information I was looking for. The 1/2" move to the right is not acceptable to me. I will call them tomorrow and see what they have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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