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5 Speed, Not T5


Robert Horne

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I spent some time with the Ranger rearend in my spare 38 Coupe frame.

The Ranger rearend is just not wide enough. I tried several different

wheels that have different backspacing. The 70s wheels and new tires on

the Plymouth now with the stock rearend fit very nice, but the Ranger

rearend being 3 inch less than the Plymouth will not fit good, no matter what

wheels/tires I use. So either adapt the stock rearend with a driveshaft

adapter or hunt for another rearend.:(

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Is your axle 59½" drum to drum? Kinda narrow, but there are plenty more to choose from. The Jeep Cherokee and Dakota are only about 60" so no benefit there.

Check here:

http://www.carnut.com/specs/rear.html

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Thanks for the info. My 38 rearend drum to drum on the outside is 61 inch,

backing plate to backing plate is 56.5"....

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The Ranger rearend drum to drum on the outside is 58 3/8 inch,

backing plate to backing plate is 53.5 inch.

My stock rearend has an outside tread of 67 inch width with 7 inch

70's Mopar wheels, 235/75-15.........This is a great fit. Not much room

in the wheels wells also. The 38 frame has a width of 48 inch, so not

much room to work with.

The Jeep rearend of 60 inch outside, maybe be a good fit, and may need

a small spacer. I do not know the size of the Dakota rearends....

I believe the Explorer rearends are 60 inch. 1990 - 95 drums,,,,,95

and up,,,disk....

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I have an early Dakota (pre91) that is about 62" from outside to outside. The early models also had 5 studs on 4.5" center so stock wheels will fit. The backing plate measurements can be deceiving since some Dakotas had very wide drums (about 3") but small diameter. Lots of available ratios, try to get one out of a 4X4 or a V-8.

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the track is listed as 62.4 for the Dakota with the 8.250 gear...the 8.25 gear even if from a later model will still accept the early 5 lug axles by just slipping the locks and swapping out..now using the front clip with 6 lug is a bit different story if you have a Gen II or later..to my knowledge and research it is not a simple swap out ofparts..machine work will be involved..

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I have a new 9 inch Ford Ranger clutch disc.

I will use the Plymouth pressure plate and bearing.

I just received some material to have a couple pilot bearings made.

Thanks Robert, are you having some piolot bushings made from brass? Im just about sold on trying this; it looks like a great alternative to the T-5 swap.

Im thinking of using an 95 and up Explorer rearend; 59 1/2" plus rear disc brakes.

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I bought a 6 inch piece of brass 1 1/4 diameter to have a couple of pilot bearing made.

I bought a 2000 Explorer to get the rearend out of, but I am doing some repairs on it to make it a vehicle for my wife. Now I will have to go on the hunt for another Explorer for a rearend....

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I set the 5 speed in my spare frame, and test fit a 1995 Ranger rearend.

I have not measured my Explorer rearend yet, to see how it compares

with the Ranger rearend. The Ranger rearend is just not wide enough,

tires are very close to the frame.

Driveshaft clearance seems to be no problem.

Driveshaft will need to be about 40 or 41 inch long....

Explorer 2 wheel drive have a driveshaft of about 41 inch long...

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Thanks for the pic. I had assumed the trans output shaft was further forward in the chassis, enough to possibly create a driveshaft clearance issue at the "X" intersection as it veers off to the passenger side. Looks like an offset pinion presents no problem in your '38. I just bought a '41 Plymouth coupe and am planning on running an Explorer disc brake rear. Haven't taken delivery of the car yet, so no ability to do a mock up. Frame diagrams of the '38 look very similar to the '41, mostly just a wheelbase difference.

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