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    1930 Plymouth Model-U 3 Window Coupe, and 1946 P15 Plymouth Special Deluxe 2 Door Coupe

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    60 yr old OCD / Old Car Disease
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    P15 chrome column turn signal wire support brkt

    Thank you Andy and Frank,...I just wanted to post as I thought it might allow someone a few hours of affordable fun to make a quick little eye candy add on. The folks on this forum have been amazing sending ideas, help, encouragement, support, back my way over the past 5 years. If more of our young folks could be encouraged, taught, mentored along this path, of restoring an old car like this,..I do believe it would greatly change their lives for the better. To work with your hands and mind, (not a smart phone/lap top screen) and actually make something,. Overcoming the obstacles, perseverance, etc....you guys know exactly what I'm talking about,...anyway - I think their future's would never be the same, in regards to what they would learn about life and themselves. Thxs again P15 forum,
  2. Just wanted to share a lap here on the forum with my fellow P15 members. I'm pretty much a one way valve here on the forum (always asking for help), but maybe this small thing will allow someone to have a little fun. When I added my turn signal to the column, the 6-8" of wire running down the side of the column kept catching my eye. I kept trying to figure out a way to support the wire, or even to hide it would have been the best choice. Found this bracket on ebay, it's listed as Arlen Ness Tech Chrome Radius Clutch Cable Brkt 1 1/2" billet..it cost me $9.95 delivered to my door. The bracket is made out of aluminum that's been chrome plated. My painted steering column OD measured right at 1.510 thousands. The ID on the clamp I received wasn't exactly a perfect circle. It measured from around 1.470 " - 1.495 ". So the manufacture is counting on the bracket to bolt down with a firm interference fit. (which would make sense as this is mfg'd to go on a motorcycle frame tube). Anyhoo - with the base metal being aluminum, I thought what the heck and I took a round bastard file and filed away at the inside I.D. of the clamp to enlarge the opening. Took me about three attempts to finally get the opening large enough to mount to my column. The bastard file would remove the aluminum fairly quickly, then I'd follow up with a wheel cylinder hone to smooth everything out. I didn't want to scar my paint on the column, every time I trail fitted the bracket to see if it was large enough, I would tape the hole opening of the brkt with cloroplast cloth wire harness friction tape. I finally ended up removing around .040 thousands of aluminum from the ID of the brkt hole, but with the cloth tape in place (cut to where you can't see it), I was able to slip the brkt onto the column, tighten the single mounting screw that holds the 2 sections of the brkt together, and the brkt stayed nice and snug on the column. Ten I was able to remove the brkt and there was no evidence of marking, etc. in the paint... Obviously I went through the chrome plating, when opening up the hole in the brkt, and had this been steel - I would not have even tried it. But being aluminum, well see if over time any issues of corrosion or flaking away of the chrome takes place. Again, being aluminum base stock, I would think it could just be polished out if that did happen, or if a person wanted to get it re-chromed, etc.. I've attached three pics. There are a few different styles of these on ebay. one was a bit more of the squared off billet chrome shape, one was black, and the other (like I purchased) has the rounded off smooth shoulders which I thought looked more like a part that might have come on the car. The small wire support hole opening is 3/8". I ran 14 awg wires down my column and even with my wires wrapped with a single overlap wrap, I have a small bit of play, so none of the wires are being pinched or in a bind....if you ran 16awg wire like the manual shows, you might even have enough room for some plastic tubing, which might look pretty clean and trick. Anyway - this made for a fun couple of hours. Enjoy !! Steve
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    P15 glove box door striker position

    Cold Blue, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. I just got back inside from working at aligning up the glove box door so that it was a fit to the dash opening, then I loosely attached the striker to the lip the way I thought it was supposed to go, (opposite of the way you show in your picture), then fortunately while easing the door towards the striker I could see through the side gap opening, and the head of that bolt on the striker looked to be way too low. ..even when I rotated the bolt head (which is offset like a cam), it still looked way too low,..... So again THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT, your picture confirms what I felt I was seeing, lapping the striker plate around to the back side will raise the striker assembly a good 3/16 " or so... Wish I could return the favor.. Steve
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    P15 glove box door striker position

    I always liked to draw, I really enjoyed doing lettering, sign work, stuff like that, but I'm getting older and definitely not as steady as I used to be...( heck, I wish I had the second nature mechanic ability so many here on the forum process, it's always greener on the other side I suppose),...anyway thanks for the reply Knuckleharley. In one of my pics I took back when tearing down, I got just the very edge of this striker in the photo, so I believe it mounts up to the outside/front side of the glove boor door lip like I'm showing in the first attached picture...course if I was sure I wouldn't be asking,..I suppose I should be able to just go slow and through process of elimination determine which way it lines up best with the door latch (without screwing things up, getting something in a bind, etc.) but hopefully someone will be able to just take a quick look for me, and I should be a step ahead of the guessing game. Steve
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    P15 glove box door striker position

    I did take quite a few pictures and made quite a few diagrams when dis-assembling, but here's another example of where I failed to preserve the info I needed to. Question please for my fellow 46-48 P15 forum member owners. Does the glove box door striker mount up to the outside or the inside (in front or behind) of the glove box door lip ? I attached a couple of pics to eliminate confusion with the question I'm asking. If someone could take a look for me and let me know back it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help. Steve
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    P15 turn signal switch loc on column ??

    Thanks Ed and Tim, I know this is awfully trivial,. I'm gonna get out there tomorrow and doing some relocating and moving on this thing,...to see if I can find a good home for it., One reason I was asking about moving it down the column is that I was looking through P15 dash pics here on the internet and I saw a few that had the signal switch mounted lower, between the shiifter and the dash,...it didn't seem to look that bad in the photos, course they may not be long legged either,....I'm a little over 6 ft, (however slowly shrinking as time fly's by)... thanks for the pic Ed... I wish we still had the old chat feature, it was nice to visit on here that way.. Steve
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    slightly warped 304ss exhaust pipe flange

    DB4YA, I originally had enough vertical length on this pipe (before the flange was welded on) to have it insert up into the exhaust manifold just like the old rusted steel exhaust system that came off it, however I was bothered about Galvanic Corrosion eating away at the inside of my cast iron manifold if I did that...…so I began trying to figure a way to connect this up and protect my cast iron manifold. At one point - I did what I'm obviously really good at, and posted the question here on the forum, many folks said they wouldn't worry about corrosion happening, etc,..but I was also asking about the purpose of the extension piece of pipe,....I guess no one in the know at the time happened along at the right time to help me out on that, cause I hadn't seen anyone mention that the real purpose of the pipe was to help prevent gasket blowout,....certainly makes sense however, I had more envisioned it's purpose as centering the exhaust pipe to the manifold as the exhaust pipe flange holes were 1/2" and the exhaust manifold holes were smaller at 7/16",...anyway - as PLYJM mentioned, I'm definitely past that now,.... I suppose if I have issues and can't keep a gasket in the flange, maybe I can have a short piece tack welded in later, I've been blocking the gasket surface side of this flange with a large file as Plymouthy suggested, and I've almost got it to where a stainless draftsman straight edge ruler lays perfectly flush in all directions, with not even the slightest light showing through between the edge of the ruler and the flange surface... I've got a Victor 5438AK 2 hole flat flange gasket which looks to be a good 1/16th inch thick and appears to have a thin metal layer sandwiched inside between the outer fiber material..so I can see where this gasket has enough depth to compensate for a bit of irregularity on the flange surface, but I felt my chances to eliminate gasket blowout and to try and have even pressure on my cast iron exhaust flange (as not to crack it), was to try and get the flange as true straight as I possible could.....I'm almost there, I can still see just a but of gap out on the very outer edges of the exhaust pipe flange,...I would say by the time I have it dead on flat, I will have made this 3/8" thick stainless steel a little over a 32nd " thinner in the very middle of the flange up close to the pipe, and course it's still almost it's initial 3/8" thickness out on the ends... I've heard folks mention a flat gasket like this Victor 5438AK, but one that also has a sleeve that goes up inside the pipe, I wonder if that would be a possibility for my situation ? Steve
  8. Question please, any of you P15 folks out there have your turn signal switch mounted to the column between the dash and the column gear shift anchor point ? I've been trying to mount a Yankee 960 turn signal switch between the steering wheel and the gear shift anchor point on the column, and there's just not quite enough real estate, however moving it down on the column that far (to between the gear shift and the dash) looks a little un-natural to me, and almost looks as though it could get in the way of a knee on a long legged person ?? maybe I'm wrong...re-locating it there would certainly solve all the space issues...all reply's welcome.. I appreciate the input.. Steve
  9. Submitting this post under the old mindset saying of "an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure" Almost wishing I would never have persured the idea of getting a 304 ss exhaust system on this old car, but I have too much skin in the game now to not continue onward with the effort. I spent quite a while researching the area for someone who tig welded, and who could answered the questions I had learned to ask in regards to trying to get this flange welded on to the exhaust pipe correctly. What type of filler wire do you use for 304 stainless ? answer : 308, what type of gas ? answer ; Argon,....etc....finally found a fella that did a lot of TIG welding, he also had a small machine shop, and I was impressed (gut feeling) with the guy in all aspects of how he carried and conducted himself.... Picked the piece up, beautiful weld,...and I know without a doubt the fella wen tout of his way to do the absolute best for me he could. reason I say that, is I had taken him a 304 stainless flange I had purchased from Summit racing, which had slotted bolt holes in it. We had discussed cutting the oval slots out of the flange, in the shape of a round plug, and making 2ea round inserts that would fir into the cutouts. These inserts would be drilled with the round 7/16" hole and would serve to keep the exhaust pipe centered at the manifold. once he started the process, he realized that it would be less work and a far better end result to just make an entire new flange out of 304 stainless (3/8" thick just like the one I brought him), position and drill the holes and weld the flange on....and that what he did... Got underneath the car yesterday and the bolt holes are a snug fit, but the 2ea 7/16" bolts did both fit through the exhaust manifold holes and through the exhaust pipe flange holes. pulled te pipe back off, and another close look at the flange had me walk over to my bench and grab a straight edge,...during the process of welding, the flange warped some....when laying a flat edge on the gasket surface, out on each far end of the flange I see about a 32nd" of gap, which of course slowly diminishes on both sides as you move inwards towards the center. According to the flat edge, almost all of the warp is from the mounting holes outward,....my only thought was to work with flat files to true this surface up again....as I realize that gasket material could take up some of this, but I also feel I gotta have even surface pressure for the gasket to last, and most importantly to not end up cracking the mounting ears on my cast iron manifold. I've filed for about 4-5 hours now, and it's incredible slow,...course that's OK, I don't much care how long it takes to end up with the proper result...however I got to thinking and wondering today, if their might be a better way,...I don't know that I'd trust anyone to mill it, as I haven't had much good luck with machinest so far in this area...I('m just wondering if it could be straightened out with heat, or some other process,..?? I'm just removing material, which might be OK,...might make this flange weaker down the line in regards to future possible warpage from heating and cooling down....?? a possible question for you forum members out there with more experience than I...again , this flange is 3/8" thick (which is a bit thicker than the old rusted flange on my old exhaust that came off the car (which looks to measure around 5/16 " thick)….if I continue to file on this, I will have to remove a little over a 32nd of material across the face of the flange to get it square. I'm doing my best to cross hatch when I file, even circular motions, and always holding the file with the palm of my hand, and holding and pressing the file up against the flange in the very center of the flange,....in effort of trying to get it as true flat as possible. Certainly something wide enough to cover the entire flange on every pass would be better....?? All thoughts and input greatly appreciated. thank you again Steve
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    fitment of vintage yankee turn signal on P15 column

    You bet DJ, I appreciate the input. It may just boil down to that (reducing the width of the band suggestion), the band itself is 3/4" wide,...and being stainless, it would be easy breezy to take a scoop out of the width of the band just in that specific area to make for some clearance,...however it will have to go a little further than that,...the 2ea mounting ears/cleats/etc...(I'm not exactly sure what to call them) that slide through the slots in the metal band, and have the bolts holes in them where you actually do your securing down, are also 3/4" wide, so I will need to down size that piece as well,....those pieces I made out of steel, and primed and painted them, etc...but still - if I'm careful when I trim the ear piece, i should be able to touch it up well enough to prevent it from future rust,......in the scope of things - that should be very do-able,... I suppose I was looking for an even more less involved resolution that might be staring me in the face that I wasn't seeing...like maybe having that turn signal clocked in the upward position might not be as crazy looking and out of the norm as I keep thinking it would be....without seats in the car, etc...I don't know exactly where my heads gonna be,...but again, at this point, it did look odd to me to have the switch mounted up above the left horizontal hub spoke of the steering wheel,...kinda like a horn on a unicorn I should probably go look at some pictures on the internet to see what others have done, with this type Yankee turn signal switch. again, I appreciate the input... Steve
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    THANK YOU ALL from Steve, the OCD King :)

    Thanks 48D, Well, in honesty I wish I could do more than just words of praise. The level/time that some of these folks have spent to help me has been quite a bit to say the least, and also as I think back after making this post, I know I have left some off that should have been mentioned,...Donald Smith, KnuckleHarley, are two that immediately come to mind and I'm sure there are others,...so forgive me if I failed to include your name in this word of thanks. Please know that it was not intentional in any way... Steve
  12. I would like to take a minute here and extend a Happy Holidays wish to my forum members and express a heartfelt thank you to all of the folks here who have shared their knowledge and time to help me in my effort of working towards the restoration of our 46 Plymouth Club Coupe project. Many of you have helped on occasion, and a few have really been generous with their time and knowledge helping me work through issues and concerns. I'm sure just like many of the members here on the forum, I want the very best for this old car, and that pertains down to each and every nut and bolt connection, piece and part. However, it is without a doubt obvious that I am way on the upper end of being obsessive compulsive about it all. In all honesty, if I could change it, I would, it's more of a curse than anything else...anyway - at 62 yrs old I don't suppose I'll be able to have much change on the way this old mind of mine works for the remaining years I have. That said, I would like to express my appreciation and sincere thanks for many that immediately come to mind, here on the forum, that have hung in there with me, and obviously have gone above and beyond to always try to help answer the many questions I have posted here on the forum, over the past few years.....Plymouthy Adams especially has been second to none, (as I have pm'd him so many times, even called him direct on the phone, etc...as I value his knowledge so very much, and also many others immediately come to mind, Young Ed is another that always helps and is quick to share information and knowledge with others, he has helped me many times,..DB4ya is another, Andy down in Australia,..Don Coatney is another,...and certainly over the past few years there have been quite a few others who have been good enough to share info and help me out...again, thank you all for each and every minute you took from your time to try and assist me...I am extremely thankful for your efforts, and so very thankful for the day that I found and joined this forum. Steve
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    fitment of vintage yankee turn signal on P15 column

    thank you Plymouthy,..I will try moving this switch upward so that I can get it to also move backwards a bit,....if I forget about trying to have solid visibility of the indicator light, I can probably still keep it low enough that it won't block the view of the amp and oil gauges, it'll just be covering up the throttle cable and headlight switch knobs...then I'll start looking for a good place to either add a separate indicator light or as you mentioned a buzzer/etc type alarm (which might be a little easier as it could be under the dash out of sight),...as I'm trying not to drill any new holes anywhere at this point. Putting that switch behind the shifter linkage to column attachment point would also solve all this, but to my eye - it would sure look like crap...I noticed in the manual, the diagram shows a press on cup that went directly behind the steering where to beautify that area, the manual notes say to remove and discard the cup when a turn signal switch is installed, so it appears they also see you as mounting the turn signal switch up close to the back of the steering wheel. Steve
  14. Almost got the car wiring completed. Thought I get the Yankee turn signal switch I went through this past summer mounted to the column and wired in. I hated to use a hose clamp, although in honesty it would probably solve much of the problem I'm having with clearance, but I will admit I'm guilty of thinking how crappy a hose clamp looks when you see it around the columkn of one of these old vintage rides....anyway - this Yankee switch came with one of the mounting ears and a piece of old rusted metal strap. The strap had rectangular slots cut about every 1/4" and you slid the ears through the correct slots and ran a bolt through the hole in both ears to tighten the strap and signal switch to the column. I made a second mtg ear (since I only received one with the switch when I found it), and since the strap was pretty much junk, I found a matching 3/4" wide piece of stainless at .025 thick, and made a mounting strap for the 1 1/2 " column. With the P15 having 3 spokes in the wheel, and in effort of being able to see the indicator light on the switch, I initially indexed the signal switch to the column where the switch was riding just above the left horizontal spoke. It seemed to look completely wrong in that position and depending on how high above the wheel spoke you positioned it, it tried to somewhat obstruct the view of the gauges...so I then relocated the switch to just below the left steering wheel spoke, trying to keep it as high as possible (just to where the indicator could be seen with the wheel in the straight forward position) and this seemed like a much better placement. Even in this lower position, this signal switch tries to take up all the real estate available on the column between the wheel and the column gear shift. (I also tried placing the switch on the dash side of the gear shift lever, and again, it didn't look right to me, also seemed like it might even get in the way of a knee mounted in this slight downward position. Finally I carefully worked it in to position as shown in the attached pictures, however placement (as it is mounted at present) has it extremely close to the shift arm (when I pull the arm up simulating a future shift into reverse),...I figured OK, this isn't horse shoes - extremely close is OK,...I won't know until the tranny is in, I'll leave it as is for the time being and if I have to clearance the strap a little later down the line, that should be do-able. While doing the above, trying to get this switch in just the right place , before I tightened her down,..I also had checked how close I was to the back of the steering wheel spokes, and I had about 1/8" clearance on one spoke, and maybe a tad less on the other,....it was at this point I thought "did I check all 3 spokes" better do that, and sure enough that far spoke on the right side only clears the turn signal switch by what looks like maybe a couple of thousands,....I mean you can't even see daylight between the back of that spoke and the front of the switch, it's not hitting but it's too close to leave and I got a feeling that once it's bolted down it sure might. Two ways I could fix this without cutting on anything. (actually three ways I suppose). 1: move the turn signal switch from where I have it , to behind the gear shift to column attachment point. 2: if I change the indexing of the switch so that it rides the column above the left horizontal spoke of the steering wheel, this will allow me to move the switch back from the steering wheel just a bit. The reason it will allow for the movement is due to the mounting ears sliding through the rectangular slots in the strap. The thickness of these ears keeps the mounting strap held out/away from the column a little over a 16th of an inch right where the mtg ear is positioned. By moving the entire switch upward on the left side, the strap moves downward on the right side, and the high part of the strap, directly above the mtg ear moves away from the back of the gear shift arm.... 3:If I placed a shim washer, bushing washer, etc...into the column to move the steering wheel out a bit,....maybe something like 40 thousands or so max,...I would obviously gain that amount of clearance between the switch and that 3rd spoke of the wheel, but I also would be removing that much of the spline to spline connection between the steering wheel and the steering column shaft.. At this point, this option 3, is my preferred choice, but I'm reminded of how often the easiest choice is many times not the correct one...IS THIS A BAD IDEA GUYS ? AND OR GALS ? Thanks for the help. Steve
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    P15 Inner Fender hole Identification Question

    Thank you Tim and Ed. I appreciate your reply's back,....you both have helped me countless times over the past few years.... and I can appreciate what Tim is saying regarding a picture,...I will do that going forward,...as I'm looking for accurate reply's back, least I can do is my part to try and help insure that enough information is provided to allow that to be possible. Very good point,...not only smart, but wise.. These holes do match up with the hole spacing on the horn relay, and they are an exact physical match (where they just appeared to have punched the sheet metal inward, drilled a hole in the center and threaded the slightly over a 16th inch of curved in sheet metal around the hole, [ maybe 3-4 threads ], ) as the holes also up front on the drivers side shroud sheet metal where the headlight terminal strip mounts... Interesting that these 2 horn relay holes and the 2 holes up front for the headlight t-blk, fit a #6 metric screw perfectly....there must be an old machine screw thread that was a close match to a #6, as I sure wouldn't think they would have used anything metric on these cars originally. Thanks again forum friends.. Steve
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