1940dodge

I completely agree with you roadkingcoupe. It is the contributors like the ones mentioned that make me come back everyday. Always interested in what else they dug up. Through them I have been able to properly identify my old Dodge as well as connect with the generation that originaly designed, built and purchased our vintage vehicles. A thank you to all of you for the many hours spent researching and most importantly sharing it with us. PS. There should almost be a separate place within the forum where all these valuable historical documents could be stored.

Well thanks for sorting me out once again!!! The Name is Roland Van Bergen. Live just outside Toronto On. Can. Born and raised in The Netherlands. I am an aircraft mechanic in the Can Air force. Have had the old Dodge for 16 yrs and thought I knew it all. Boy was I wrong! Enjoying the history lesson and taking it all in. Went to the post office today and picked up the steering box parts. NOS Worm and tube (was not easy to find), sector shaft and new bearings and bushings. Off to work I go! Should be like new when I am done. Roland.

Sorry about the confusion. I did not realize that there was a difference between the Utility Sedan (Chicken Wire Partition, Who would have thought?) and the Utility Coupe. UTE is what they call a pick-up Down Under and in New Zealand...learning so much from our Commonwealth Brothers...lol So back to the Utility Coupe (UTE). Is this one of those vehicles that were only produced on the vehicle chassis shipped across the pond or were they produced here in North Amarica? Would be interesting to know what sort of numbers were produced.

Andy, Found info on the Ute at the following: www.allpar.com/trucks/plymouth/pt-4.html Bill, Thanks for pointing me on the right path. So the Plymouth Deluxe Series it is. My firewall plate is no longer there so I will have to look at what the differences were between the P10 and P10S to place my D16.

1940 Plymouth Utility Sedan production at 589 units produced at a price of $699.

Love the UTE's. Those are something else indeed! Thanks for the replies. So a Plymouth in disguise is what I thought. I would imagine that the D15 and D16 are very close. I think the D16 was called the Kingsway as per the attached pic.

This forum has been great, providing me with invaluable info on my car. Only a few months back I was unaware that there was such a thing as a Plymouth Bodied Dodge aka Plodge. Crazy really that they had done that over the years but I guess they had their reasons. So my question is as follows: Is my 1940 D16 more Plymouth or Dodge? I am thinking its most likely a Plymouth with Dodge moulding, grill, and some interior refinements. I have a Dodge D14 parts book, should I be looking at a Plymouth book instead with regards to anything mechanical? A Plymouth in disguise? Thanks in advance,

Richard, This is the removal for my dodge, yours should be close. Remove the steering wheel with a wheel puller, remove the pitman arm with a puller, remove the pan between the frame and motor on the left. take out the 3 bolts holding the box to the frame, and with the car jacked up pretty high you can pull it out. The steering wheel shaft is part of the box assembly. Thanks Rockwood, I will give them a call first thing in the morning.

Ordered the re-build kit from Andy Bernbaum to begin restoring the Steering gear. After pulling the box out and upon close inspection discovered that the worm gear attached to the steering column is badly worn and needs to be replaced. This seems to be a very difficult part to find. I am willing to purchase a used complete box if anyone has one laying around or just the column. As of now the poor dodge is stranded in my garage and would love to get it together. Any leads as to where I can get the part would be great. Not having any luck. As well is there a difference in the Steering Gear between Dodges and Plymouths, Cars and Trucks, Years? The D16 was the Dodge/Plymouth variant. Is it a Dodge or Plymouth Box? Sorry about all the questions but perhaps an opening to a good discussion. Thanks in advance. Roland.

I sure am glad I asked. You guys are a wealth of knowledge. Deathbound’s pics really show what to look for with regards to wear. I am thinking you might just be right Dan, that my sector shaft is not so bad after all. When the box is together with the pitman arm disconnected all movement input into the steering column directly transfers to the sector shaft. However when under a load (pitman arm connected) I have 1/3rd play on my steering wheel on each side before I feel resistance and the sector shaft starts to rotate. Perhaps I should get the rebuilt kit sold through Andy Bernbaum and see if that tightens things up. I really enjoyed the last line in your post. Exciting indeed! Nice cars Andy. Very unique and rare I am sure. The fact that they were manufactured Down Under and in SA. I will check those rubbers.

Hey guys, I have had my 1940 D16 Business coupe for some time but always hesitant to take it out. All because the steering is as loose as it gets. I have adjusted it with shims to no avail and finally decided to open her up. I removed the sector shaft and it looks a bit rough. I would imagine that I would also have to replace the steering tube worm gear. Replace both as a pair. The sector shaft should not be too hard to find however the steering tube gear might be a different story all together. Does the gear come attached to the steering tube as one assy? I am wondering if you guys could share your steering box stories to get an idea as to where I should be headed with this. And perhaps some contacts as to who does this sort of work or where I can get the parts. A vehicle with tight steering makes all the difference. Attached pic is of my sector shaft Roland.

Thanks again for the info guys. As per the instructions, on the engine block above the generator I found the following: D16 C4241. I dont know how long that has been staring me in the face! How do you go about finding out if the engine is original to the vehicle? Is the serial # stamped on the engine as well? I did not find a plate on the firewall. Great pics Andy and a nice car. Roland.

Thanks Phil, Already learning alot about a car that I have had for 15 years. Always thought it was a D14. Roland.

Thanks for the info Roadkingcoupe. I will be sure to replace them both. 40phil41 I enjoyed your website and your lifelong project. Glad you got it all done. So I looked up my serial #9498101. I guess its not a CDN car like I always thought it was. Perhaps US cars were sold right here in canada through the dealerships. Any recommendations of where to purchase the wormgear for my dodge? I would think that the steering gear shaft and roller tube might be a challenge to find. See attached for a picture of my coupe.

New to the forum and thought I would say hello. I have always been fond of Mopars especialy the real old ones so I think I will be right at home here. I will be sure to post a pic of my car as soon as I figure out how to do so. On a different note I have taken my steering box apart as there is way to much play on it. I have come to the conclusion that the worm gears are worn beyond limits and need replacing. Any info you can pass on with regards to your experience would be great. Most importantly I am looking for contacts as where to get parts. Thanks for having me,