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  1. Paint chip. To see the color, got the the next set of paintchips (page 4), card number 463 as the link suggests. http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/chipdisplay.cgi?year=1946&manuf=Chrysler&smodel=DeSoto&info=&page=3
  2. http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/mopar/46dess/46dess.html
  3. Pretty difficult to find the info. Here's what I think, you can confirm some things. Model 112 1948 S-11 Custom (a guess, model 111 would be the standard -- the VIN number would reveal which it is) Body 5 4 Dr. sedan (just a guess, don't know what your body style is for sure) Paint 314 Gem Green Sure on this Trim 909 Green Broadcloth upholstery Sure on this TR 2 3 spd transmission with Fluid Drive (a guess -- the other choice is the Tip Toe semi automatic trans. Would have a kickdown switch) Schedule 511 Not sure how to decipher. This is the production date. Could be 511th day, means very early 1948 model then. Item 3202 Not sure, maybe order number Body number 69365 Briggs built the bodies I think, so this is their number HR (empty) Not equipped with factory heater SG (empty) Probably special or Solex Glass, not so equipped on this car RD (empty) Radio, car not equipped with radio AR (empty) THis may be air conditioning, car not so equipped. Was offered on the 1942 models, probably extremely rare WW (empty) May mean wide whitewalls. Car not so equipped. Not sure about the other codes. Someone should jump in and correct the mistakes I may have made. WOuld like to know the other codes myself. This car seems to be a pretty basic one with relatively few options. Let us know what it actually has on it.
  4. Interesting comparison. Here's the C3B truck I have, 1/2T short box. It was a six originally but has a V8 in it. I thought this one was also originally a 6 because of the round hood ornament.
  5. I have listed an ad under classifieds for a 1955 C3B for sale. Check it out. [sharedmedia=classifieds:items:775]
  6. Sorry, for some reason I missed all of this discussion. Haven't been on for a while. I did buy some horn rings off ebay, but none of them were correct. The 5th Aven cigarette horn ring is DIFFERENT than the Custom horn ring, which in turn is different from a Deluxe. I do have the correct number off of the broken original I have. A lot of people are selling these on ebay and marking them as 42-48, but 42 is different. The covers that go on the bottom part are different (2 small spokes on 42, while 46-48 has a cover over those spokes, and hence they are made a little differenly. The most important difference is that the 42 5th Ave steering wheel with cigarette dispenser, and the 46-48 Customs have the "long" center steering ornament, which uses the "short" arms for the steering ring. As shown in that ebay picture above. The 42 Deluxe horn ring has "long" arms to the center hub ornament as that ornament is much smaller. The Deluxe may not have had a horn ring, I'm not sure. If it did, it is the longer type arms for it. The other difference which helps spot 42 vs 46-48, if the horn ring is in reasonably good original condition, is that 42 rings were painted RED in the centers, while 46-48 were painted BLACK in the centers. Look at the piece above. It is black. I've checked this out with Donald Narus' book on Chrysler dashes of the late 30s through 40s. He gives the numbers for all of these steering wheel parts there. He did not have the correct ones for 1942, and I provided him the info I had for when he updates his book. Be careful, some of the guys selling stuff on ebay are positive that their 46-48 horn rings work for 1942, but they DO NOT. The 5th Ave was relatively rare. It's not the common horn ring that a 42 Desoto would be found with. In a pinch, the more common 46-48 horn rings would probably work for that, but that's not what I'm looking for. If anyone wants the numbers for these parts, let me know.
  7. Does anybody have a 1942 DeSoto Custom model Horn Ring? I have the numbers for it. It looks like the 46-48, but with some minor albeit important, differences. I have a NOS 46-48 horn ring I'm willing to trade for a decent 42 version. 1941 had a "half" horn ring, while 42-48 had the full horn ring. The Deluxe vs Custom Steering wheels are completely different for those years however. Looking for Custom. Of course, at one point in time, someone put all their weight on the top part of the horn ring in my car and broke it off completely. I have the parts, but because they are diecast, pretty difficult to repair.
  8. william, you're right, it's a C3B. Your truck looks like the V8 version, beautiful. I'm probably going to regret selling it later if I could make it as nice as your truck!
  9. C1B, 1/2T lowside box I was laid off in February and so I have no choice but to sell some of my cars. I wanted to go through and restore this truck, but just won't be able to get to it, and though it's up in the air, I may have to move, so better that it finds a new home now. I think the truck has sat now for about 5-6 years, but I am told it did run (I got it last year). It has what I think is a 1964 318 V8 Poly engine in it; originally it was a flathead 6. The truck was originally green. I live in Washington state, and I'm asking $3000 for the truck. The only major damage is the driver side rear fender. The front clip got taken off to get at the serial number on the truck. I do have a title. Send me a PM with your contact info, and I'll respond. I hope that this can go to someone that can restore it properly, so this is where I decided to start advertising it.
  10. YOu came to teh proper conclustion on the only way to do it. That's exactly what the manual tells you to do. I also gives instructions on how to remove the radiator and fender unit, but why go that way? A lot more work.
  11. Service manual instructions for 1940: Remove hood and water pump assembly. Disconnect the engine water outlet hose. Bend back the clips which hold the headlight wires to the radiator core. Disconnect the core from the radiator support and lift out the radiator core.
  12. Like your coupe, I have a 46 which is almost identical. When you thaw out send more pictures! What will you do with your car?
  13. Merle, As I stated above, title was on engine number (engine replaced by someone some time ago; no longer with truck). VINs used for titles were commonly issued based on engine number in those days. Obviously i have to go with another number. This truck is stock except for the engine/tranny swap. I can't imagine anyone going to the trouble to obtain an entire new cab and box or frame to repair a wrecked vehicle; it would just go to the salvage yard I would think, unless it happened at the factory. I didn't think it out of the question that a 55 earlier frame could be used with a cab that had been built in late 54. The cabs/boxes were identical as far as i'm aware. Anyway, it's a mystery. Can one obtain factory build sheets on these trucks to verify the numbers? Are any of those records available?
  14. Forgot, I have one more question regarding tihs. Is the serial number stamped anywhere else on the frame, for example, towards the rear? Thanks, Floyd
  15. Trying to get the title for this 1/2, swb, low-side PU. Problem is, none of the numbers match. So here's what I've found, and I hope folks can chime in and let me know if they've seen this before. 1. Title VIN is: T33453635; that was clearly the engine number, which was a flathead 6. The engine was gone when I got the truck (had newer V8), so not good for title purposes anymore. This engineering code was for engines produced from 1954-1956 (T334). 2. Cowl tag states: Model C1-B6-108 (1954 1/2T, 6 cyl, 108" wb); VIN: 82370051 (this number is later in the series range; 82,338,001 to 82, 372,344) 3. Frame, front, drivers side VIN: 82,380,816 ("0" not stamped well and looks a little like a "C", first "8" double stamped). This number indicates a C3B, 1955 vehicle. The VIN range is 82,373,001 to 82,397,181. Number is about 1/3 through production range. Has anybody seen this where a "1954" cab is on a "1955" frame? I can see how it might happen given that the cab was pretty late 1954, and the frame is earlier 1955. Truck title states it is 1955, so makes sense that the later date was used. Were there any differences between late 1954 and early 1955 trucks? I think they are all the same in reality. Thanks, Floyd
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