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  1. B-Watson

    Engine identification

    Dodge was 1934
  2. B-Watson

    Engine identification

    The 230 engine with its 3.25" bore would be a different casting than the 201 with its 3.125" bore. The 1/8" (0.125") difference is a little much especially when Chrysler itself offered pistons to a maximum of 60 over. - that's .060". 60 over on a 3.125" bore would give you 3.185" bore - 0.065" shy of 3.250". The wall thickness of the cylinders is pretty much the same for all engines, thus the bore size is increased as the bore of the engine is increased. Resulting in different castings for different bore sizes.
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    56 Wagon questions

    For the 1955 and 1956 Plymouth and Dodge doors, they do not interchange due to the difference in door handles. The 1955 models had push button handles while the 1956 had pull-to style. The rear doors on the 1955 Plymouth and Dodge wagons will interchange as well as the 1955 Plymouth rear doors on the sedan. The rear Dodge sedan doors are longer as the Dodge's extra 5" in the wheelbase was done in the rear sear area on the sedans. Usually 2 door convertible and hardtop doors will interchange, but they won't interchange with the 2 door sedan or wagon doors due to the lack of an upper door frame on the convertible and hardtop doors.
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    tucked in running boards??

    Yes, those are Body Side Shields. Being chrome, they don't need the narrow moulding along the bottom of the non-chromed units. But basically that's all they are - bulged trim to cover the spot where running boards used to be.
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    tucked in running boards??

    Yes, the panels were called "Body Side Shields" - in section 12 of the 1940 parts catalogue. The shield was available in prime although Chrysler also had a chrome version. There was a moulding down the lower part of the shield. Plymouth and all Dodges used the same shields with DeSoto and Chrysler sharing another - the body on the DeSoto and Chrysler was 3" longer on the Plymouth and Dodge. And all body styles used the same shield, with the 7-pass models having a longer version. For 1941 Dodge shared the DeSoto/Chrysler body with the Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler using a 3" longer shield than Plymouth. My father owned a 1940 Plymouth 4oor sedan with the body side shields instead of the running boards.
  6. B-Watson

    Introduction from Australia

    "Sorry for the late reply I have been very busy with work. The engine in the chassis shots is a later one, the trans is a push button whereas the other is a conventional shift alloy t/f so another late block. The number on the good engine is A318- 9?29- 0746. " The "A" in "A318" makes it a 1965 engine. Which means the TF attached to it may have cables, but the shifting inside the car was done with levers, and not buttons. That's if the transmission came with that engine.
  7. B-Watson

    Bill Watsons Production Figures

    Hi Andy, Are those the 1939 Plymouth production figures by body style? I have them here and can repost. Any others you are looking for?
  8. B-Watson

    Similarity between ‘52 Concord and ‘53 Cranbrook?

    1951 Concord is all but identical to the 1952 - changed hood ornament, some grille pieces, series name on side of front fender and rear license lamp assembly. Other than that very few differences. The 1951-52 Concord was on a 111" wheelbase while the 1953 Plymouths were on a 114" wheelbase. So there some floor stampings (especially front ones) that do work on 1951-52 models.
  9. B-Watson

    230 main bearings....For Torque Converter????

    The 1953-1954 Canadian parts book shows Plymouth 6 cylinder crankshafts - 1953-54 USA (217.6-cid) With Hy-Drive - 1531 889 No Hy-Drive - 1531 694 1954 USA (230.6-cid - Starting at Engine No. 243001) All - with and without Hy-Drive - 15570707 The bearing cap for number 4 main is different on engines with torque converter - 1953-54 - Without T.C. (standard size) - 1238 434 1953-54 - With T.C. (standard size) - 1450 682 The number 4 main bearing is listed as 2.5000x1.5890 in Automotive Industries Statistical issue for 1953 and 1954 for all 23" block engines.. The V8 engines had no differences between TC and no TC. Same with DeSoto and Chrysler six cylinder engines. Canadian Plymouth/Dodge engines also showed differences between engines with and without Hy-Drive. But the numbers are different from the U.S. Plymouth as the Canadian-built cars used the 25" block. US Dodge 6 changed the crankshaft at 1954 engine serial number 17001 from 870 001 to 1557 707. The only common thread is the Hy-Drive engines, with their engine oil system supplying the torque converter as well.
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    Pearl Tan

    Plymouth used lacquer from the beginning for 1929 through to 1935 when the 2 door sedans were done in enamel. Starting in 1936 all Plymouths built in Detroit and Evansville were done in enamel. Los Angeles plant switched Plymouth to enamel in 1940 and the Windsor plant in 1946. Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler used lacquer up to 1938 and switched to enamel for Detroit in 1939 and the Windsor plant in 1946. Dodge production began at Los Angeles in 1946 (enamel) and DeSoto and Chrysler in 1948 (enamel). The San Leandro plant was in operation 1949 to 1954, and all bodies were in enamel. So your 1949 Chrysler was done in enamel paint.
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    Body Number Codes - Need help

    The body number on the Canadian tag (ca 1935 to 1965) is the sequential number for that body style. Thus Body Number 1105 is the 1,105th D36C C-CPE (1950 vSpecial DeLuxe Club Coupe) built. (Paint Code 4155 is Gunmetal, which was a Canada-only colour.)
  12. B-Watson

    Exciting 1933 Dodge project!

    That's what I thought, too. Given the similarities between the two it seemed like a given. The 1933 HC ½-ton truck and early 1933 DP/DQ models used a 111¼" wheelbase chassis, but the truck chassis was part number 561211 for LHD and 61210 for RHD. .The car chassis was part number 601823 for LHD and 606567 for RHD. In April, 1933 the DP, but neither the DQ nor the HC models, went to a 115" wheelbase (612705 LHD and 612724 RHD). The Plymouth PD went into production in April, 1933 on the DP (early)/DQ 111¼" chassis. The bodies were different car to truck with the truck bodies usually being only the cab portion with a large load area behind. And that might account for some of the differences in the chassis. Also want to mention, the Dodge DQ was not based on the Plymouth PD, but the Dodge DP. Basically the DQ was a stripped version of the DP, much as the 1934 DRXX was a stripped version of the DR. The DP and DQ went into production in November, 1932 while the PD went into production five months later. Engine number prefix on both the DP and DQ was DP while the production of the DQ models was included in the DP totals.
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    Newly Acquired 1947 Dodge Special Deluxe!

    Also, that 1947 Dodge was a fantastic find! It is in great shape. Wondering what the paint code and trim code is on the car. There is a small tag on the firewall with Model No, Body No,. Paint Code and Trim Code.
  14. B-Watson

    Newly Acquired 1947 Dodge Special Deluxe!

    On Canadian- built D25 models the front bumper is part number 1118 319. The Canadian Plymouth P15 bumper was part number - 1118 319. For the buffer guards, both makes used the same units, part number 1123 504 for a pair. They also used the same front bumper support assembly - R - 1118 294 and L -1118 295. The D25 used stone deflector 1149 691 for the right and 1149 692 for the left The Canadian P15 used the same deflectors as the Canadian D15 up to and including serial number 9,631,311. Starting at 9,631,311 the Canadian P15 used 1158 555 on the right and 1158 556 on the left. What the differences are, I do not know. The first 1946 P15 was 9,824,461 and the first 1947 was 9,631,186. So, the 1946 models and the first 126 1947 models had the original shields while the rest of the 1947 and all 1948 used the newer shields. This information is from Chryco Parts Buyers Guide, WM-4275, covering 1939-1952 models. No info in book on rear bumpers, etc. Trying to get may hands on the Canadian 1946-1948 P15-D24-D25-S11-C38 parts book.
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    Light switch Dodge Kingsway 51

    I believe 1965 was the first year the parking lights stayed on with the headlights, although the Barracuda adopted it in 1964. Amber parking lights were adopted for 1963.
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