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  1. For the 1956 Plymouth and Dodge front doors, and this includes the US 120" wheelbase Dodge models - 2 door sedan and wagon = R - 1657 006 / L - 1657 007 2 door hardtop and convertible = R - 1657 002 / L - 1657 003 4 door sedan and wagon = R - 1656 458 / L - 1656 459 4 door hardtop = R - 1681 074 / L - 1681 075 For starters, the sedan / wagon doors have an upper frame surrounding the glass that also includes the vent framework. Hardtops and convertibles do not have an upper frame and have different door vents than the closed models. The vent and the door glass are the same for both hardtop and convertible. The front fenders are the same for all models (Plymouth for all Plymouths and Dodge for all Dodges). The "A" pillar is the same for all, except convertible, and the door locks are the same for all models, except the hardtop sedan. So, yes, you could install a convertible/hardtop door for a sedan/wagon door, but things above the belt line might be a little drafty. But installing a 2 door sedan door in a 2 door wagon should pose no more troubles than installing a wagon door in a wagon. As for people who have followed the above and have doors that do not fit, you may have been given doors from another year or even another make. Never assume anything. Forty-some years ago a friend was looking for a 4-barrel carb and manifold for his 1962 Dart with a 313 V8. A local yard had such a unit and he picked it up that afternoon. That evening off came the 2-bbl carb and manifold, but that was as far as he got. Next day he called another yard and gave them the numbers on the 4-bbl carb and manifold. Turned out he had purchased equipment for a 1955 Buick.
  2. Not many out there are from or deal with the Province of Manitoba, but their registration cards recorded the serial number of the car. I have the registration cards for my father's cars for the early 1940's. His first car was a 1931 Graham Special Six 4dr Sedan, registered in 1940, which he traded for a 1936 Graham Supercharger the next year. Chrysler Corporation had the Serial Number tag on the passenger side door hinge post from 1931 (after the FEDCO system was dropped) through to sometime in 1946. The tag was then moved to the driver's door hinge post. Thus there are 1946 models out there with the Serial Number tag on passenger or on the driver door post. But not both. Vehicle Identification Numbers started appearing, as we know it, in the late 1950's. Chrysler's VIN for 1959 had - M - model year, C - car line, 1 - series, B assembly plant followed by the six digit sequential production number (10 digits total). The model year moved to the third spot on the VIN for 1960. For 1966 the prefix included B - car line, 1 - series, 23 - body style, 5 - engine, 6 - model year 3 - assembly plant, followed by the six digit sequential production number (13 digits total). 1966 was the year GM, Ford and AMC all adopted a 13 digit VIN - prefix orders were all different. In 1968 the VIN had to be attached to the interior driver's side of the instrument panel or the A pillar (imports such as Datsun and Renault). The purpose was to able to see the VIN from outside of the car without opening any doors or the hood. The 17 digit VIN was adopted for 1981, and is still in use today. Starting during 1968, the VIN is stamped in various places on the car, as well as the engine and transmission. . Chrysler of Canada adopted an 11 digit VIN for 1965, only - 1 - Car Line (V - Valiant 100 / Barracuda; L - Valiant 200 / Signet; P - Fury; D - Polara; C - Chrysler 2 - Series (1 - Low 6 / 2 - Medium 6 / 3 - High 6 / 4 - Premium 6 / / 6 - Low V8 / 7 - Medium V8 / 8 - High V8 / 9 - Premium V8) 3 - Body Style (A - 2 door sedan / B - 2 door hardtop / C - 4oor sedan / D - 4 door hardtop / E - Convertible / F - 2 seat Wagon / G - 3 seat Wagon) / S - Special . 4 - Model Year - 5 - 1965 5 - Assembly Plant - 9 - Windsor, ON
  3. The 230 engine with its 3.25" bore would be a different casting than the 201 with its 3.125" bore. The 1/8" (0.125") difference is a little much especially when Chrysler itself offered pistons to a maximum of 60 over. - that's .060". 60 over on a 3.125" bore would give you 3.185" bore - 0.065" shy of 3.250". The wall thickness of the cylinders is pretty much the same for all engines, thus the bore size is increased as the bore of the engine is increased. Resulting in different castings for different bore sizes.
  4. For the 1955 and 1956 Plymouth and Dodge doors, they do not interchange due to the difference in door handles. The 1955 models had push button handles while the 1956 had pull-to style. The rear doors on the 1955 Plymouth and Dodge wagons will interchange as well as the 1955 Plymouth rear doors on the sedan. The rear Dodge sedan doors are longer as the Dodge's extra 5" in the wheelbase was done in the rear sear area on the sedans. Usually 2 door convertible and hardtop doors will interchange, but they won't interchange with the 2 door sedan or wagon doors due to the lack of an upper door frame on the convertible and hardtop doors.
  5. Yes, those are Body Side Shields. Being chrome, they don't need the narrow moulding along the bottom of the non-chromed units. But basically that's all they are - bulged trim to cover the spot where running boards used to be.
  6. Yes, the panels were called "Body Side Shields" - in section 12 of the 1940 parts catalogue. The shield was available in prime although Chrysler also had a chrome version. There was a moulding down the lower part of the shield. Plymouth and all Dodges used the same shields with DeSoto and Chrysler sharing another - the body on the DeSoto and Chrysler was 3" longer on the Plymouth and Dodge. And all body styles used the same shield, with the 7-pass models having a longer version. For 1941 Dodge shared the DeSoto/Chrysler body with the Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler using a 3" longer shield than Plymouth. My father owned a 1940 Plymouth 4oor sedan with the body side shields instead of the running boards.
  7. "Sorry for the late reply I have been very busy with work. The engine in the chassis shots is a later one, the trans is a push button whereas the other is a conventional shift alloy t/f so another late block. The number on the good engine is A318- 9?29- 0746. " The "A" in "A318" makes it a 1965 engine. Which means the TF attached to it may have cables, but the shifting inside the car was done with levers, and not buttons. That's if the transmission came with that engine.
  8. Hi Andy, Are those the 1939 Plymouth production figures by body style? I have them here and can repost. Any others you are looking for?
  9. 1951 Concord is all but identical to the 1952 - changed hood ornament, some grille pieces, series name on side of front fender and rear license lamp assembly. Other than that very few differences. The 1951-52 Concord was on a 111" wheelbase while the 1953 Plymouths were on a 114" wheelbase. So there some floor stampings (especially front ones) that do work on 1951-52 models.
  10. The 1953-1954 Canadian parts book shows Plymouth 6 cylinder crankshafts - 1953-54 USA (217.6-cid) With Hy-Drive - 1531 889 No Hy-Drive - 1531 694 1954 USA (230.6-cid - Starting at Engine No. 243001) All - with and without Hy-Drive - 15570707 The bearing cap for number 4 main is different on engines with torque converter - 1953-54 - Without T.C. (standard size) - 1238 434 1953-54 - With T.C. (standard size) - 1450 682 The number 4 main bearing is listed as 2.5000x1.5890 in Automotive Industries Statistical issue for 1953 and 1954 for all 23" block engines.. The V8 engines had no differences between TC and no TC. Same with DeSoto and Chrysler six cylinder engines. Canadian Plymouth/Dodge engines also showed differences between engines with and without Hy-Drive. But the numbers are different from the U.S. Plymouth as the Canadian-built cars used the 25" block. US Dodge 6 changed the crankshaft at 1954 engine serial number 17001 from 870 001 to 1557 707. The only common thread is the Hy-Drive engines, with their engine oil system supplying the torque converter as well.
  11. Plymouth used lacquer from the beginning for 1929 through to 1935 when the 2 door sedans were done in enamel. Starting in 1936 all Plymouths built in Detroit and Evansville were done in enamel. Los Angeles plant switched Plymouth to enamel in 1940 and the Windsor plant in 1946. Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler used lacquer up to 1938 and switched to enamel for Detroit in 1939 and the Windsor plant in 1946. Dodge production began at Los Angeles in 1946 (enamel) and DeSoto and Chrysler in 1948 (enamel). The San Leandro plant was in operation 1949 to 1954, and all bodies were in enamel. So your 1949 Chrysler was done in enamel paint.
  12. The body number on the Canadian tag (ca 1935 to 1965) is the sequential number for that body style. Thus Body Number 1105 is the 1,105th D36C C-CPE (1950 vSpecial DeLuxe Club Coupe) built. (Paint Code 4155 is Gunmetal, which was a Canada-only colour.)
  13. That's what I thought, too. Given the similarities between the two it seemed like a given. The 1933 HC ½-ton truck and early 1933 DP/DQ models used a 111¼" wheelbase chassis, but the truck chassis was part number 561211 for LHD and 61210 for RHD. .The car chassis was part number 601823 for LHD and 606567 for RHD. In April, 1933 the DP, but neither the DQ nor the HC models, went to a 115" wheelbase (612705 LHD and 612724 RHD). The Plymouth PD went into production in April, 1933 on the DP (early)/DQ 111¼" chassis. The bodies were different car to truck with the truck bodies usually being only the cab portion with a large load area behind. And that might account for some of the differences in the chassis. Also want to mention, the Dodge DQ was not based on the Plymouth PD, but the Dodge DP. Basically the DQ was a stripped version of the DP, much as the 1934 DRXX was a stripped version of the DR. The DP and DQ went into production in November, 1932 while the PD went into production five months later. Engine number prefix on both the DP and DQ was DP while the production of the DQ models was included in the DP totals.
  14. Also, that 1947 Dodge was a fantastic find! It is in great shape. Wondering what the paint code and trim code is on the car. There is a small tag on the firewall with Model No, Body No,. Paint Code and Trim Code.
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