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17 hours ago, tub1 said:
that car is so straight through the sides what a job the body and paint bloke did
Cheers mate the resto is 20 years old no rust very very straight as you say.
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3 hours ago, Andydodge said:
Craig, your cars engine number doesn't correlate to what GF states and the details that GF has quoted in his book. The Licence Data in the 1954 Oz Workshop Manual Supplement is exactly the same as what GF has in his book in relation to the engine number suffix/prefix details, maybe he has used the Workshop Manual Supplement for the source of his info, the copy I have is dated 1954 by Scientific Publications who were the publishers of most makes of shop manuals on behalf of the manufacturers up until at least the 1970's if not later.........maybe your cars engine has been replaced? .........andyd
No idea mate but will investigate further.
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1 hour ago, Andydodge said:
Craig..........agreed.......I am no expert but your car would appear to be one of 91 built going by the side moldings as a 53 or 54 model with the Powerflite and the "516" may indicate the body number.............also does your car have a mechanical or hydraulic clutch and floor or firewall pedals............also the engine number info.... does any of what I posted apply?..........I'm going on whats in the GF book and I have found a few odd statements in their so am curious whether what is stated actually holds up in real life............lol............andyd
Floor pedals and engine # TE02816
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On 5/16/2019 at 10:20 AM, Andydodge said:
Craig.....I have the Gavin Farmer book, "Great Ideas In Motion" published 2010 which covers Oz mopar 1946-1981 as well as a few other publications including the 1946-53 Workshop manual and 1954 Supplement together with both the 1957 AP1 Chrysler Royal and 1960 AP3 Chrysler Royal workshop manuals and from going thru the lot this may or may not help.........lol.........the production figures for Dodge are as follows
D49S 1954 1955 1956
/1 7 10
/2 1705 1318 833
/3 223 586 277
/4 91 941 654
Farmers book also mentioned that the D49 which was introduced in 1953 and continued up until the introduction of the 1957 Chrysler Royal had very few indentifiable styling changes, the main two appear to have been the deletion of the side trim or moldings thru the doors from 1955 and the adoption of chromed hooded headlight surrounds from 1956. As your car does have the moldings thru the doors it may have been a 1953 or 1954 built car however not sold new till 1955, but thats just a guess on my part............the other thing I mentioned regarding the engine choices and the confusion is borne out by the 1954 Chrysler Australia Workshop Manual Supplement which lists the 3 engines available as follows.......
D49 1/2 230.2 engine( with engine numbers after 243,000.......which would be the 23" Dodge/Plymouth engine)
D49 1/2 228.1 engine (with engine numbers suffixed "C"...........which would be the 25" DeSoto/Chrysler engine)
D49 3/4 250.6 engine (with engine numbers prefixed "Kew"......which would be the 25" DeSoto/ Chrysler engine)
I have not seen a 1955 or 1956 Australian Chrysler /Mopar/Dodge/DeSoto or Plymouth Workshop Manual, nor have I seen one listed but they/it may exist and have different info....did your car come with a workshop manual or owners manual?
It appears also that over over the 4 years that this series was in production a couple of other changes appeared.........pedals went from being floor/chassis mounted to being pendant or firewall mounted, also changes to whether it had a mechanical clutch to a hydraulic clutch as well as the introduction of a Oz made gearbox with selectors on the Oz drivers side of the gearbox and possibily the introduction of the parking brake on the rear brake drums tho' that may have come in only on the 1957 Royal with the 3 speed manual gearbox................anyway I hope this helps.............or confuses...........lol.............andyd
On 5/16/2019 at 10:20 AM, Andydodge said:Craig.....I have the Gavin Farmer book, "Great Ideas In Motion" published 2010 which covers Oz mopar 1946-1981 as well as a few other publications including the 1946-53 Workshop manual and 1954 Supplement together with both the 1957 AP1 Chrysler Royal and 1960 AP3 Chrysler Royal workshop manuals and from going thru the lot this may or may not help.........lol.........the production figures for Dodge are as follows
D49S 1954 1955 1956
/1 7 10
/2 1705 1318 833
/3 223 586 277
/4 91 941 654
Farmers book also mentioned that the D49 which was introduced in 1953 and continued up until the introduction of the 1957 Chrysler Royal had very few indentifiable styling changes, the main two appear to have been the deletion of the side trim or moldings thru the doors from 1955 and the adoption of chromed hooded headlight surrounds from 1956. As your car does have the moldings thru the doors it may have been a 1953 or 1954 built car however not sold new till 1955, but thats just a guess on my part............the other thing I mentioned regarding the engine choices and the confusion is borne out by the 1954 Chrysler Australia Workshop Manual Supplement which lists the 3 engines available as follows.......
D49 1/2 230.2 engine( with engine numbers after 243,000.......which would be the 23" Dodge/Plymouth engine)
D49 1/2 228.1 engine (with engine numbers suffixed "C"...........which would be the 25" DeSoto/Chrysler engine)
D49 3/4 250.6 engine (with engine numbers prefixed "Kew"......which would be the 25" DeSoto/ Chrysler engine)
I have not seen a 1955 or 1956 Australian Chrysler /Mopar/Dodge/DeSoto or Plymouth Workshop Manual, nor have I seen one listed but they/it may exist and have different info....did your car come with a workshop manual or owners manual?
It appears also that over over the 4 years that this series was in production a couple of other changes appeared.........pedals went from being floor/chassis mounted to being pendant or firewall mounted, also changes to whether it had a mechanical clutch to a hydraulic clutch as well as the introduction of a Oz made gearbox with selectors on the Oz drivers side of the gearbox and possibily the introduction of the parking brake on the rear brake drums tho' that may have come in only on the 1957 Royal with the 3 speed manual gearbox................anyway I hope this helps.............or confuses...........lol.............andyd
From the tag it D49S-4-516 so 91 made if knocked out in 54 if I am reading right.
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On 5/16/2019 at 6:08 PM, tub1 said:
hello craig, dam nice car you have there mate I look forward to seeing a picture when you have made it yours take your time and enjoy that car for your self scott
Cheers Scotty I will for sure mate.
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On 5/16/2019 at 6:08 PM, tub1 said:
hello craig, dam nice car you have there mate I look forward to seeing a picture when you have made it yours take your time and enjoy that car for your self scott
Cheers Scotty will do.
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15 hours ago, Don Coatney said:
Don't get me wrong. Your car, your choice. I agree with the chrome rims. I am not a fan of lowering.
No worries Don I will look at it once I pick tyre height and such, I know the purists like the stock untouched appearance I on the other hand like it as stock looking but with a subtle change of appearance, it will handle the same. Nice 48 by the way mate would look good lowered
(joke old son).
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On 5/13/2019 at 9:31 PM, bigdaisy19k said:
Resisting the urge to make a street cred joke here, I would say it's a looks preference. I can't think of a performance gain, I mean just looking at the nice work in the photos, I'm willing to bet those are new springs front and rear.
Springs were done 20 years ago as was the entire resto, and yep looks preference as these need all the help they can get
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4 minutes ago, Plymouthy Adams said:
measure the head of the donk.....23 verse 25
Cheers mate im on it. So whats the better engine of the 2?
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On 5/14/2019 at 12:12 AM, BobT-47P15 said:
Nice looking car. Interesting how cars built in other countries are similar to but different from vehicles made
in the USA. This one is a 1955 model, but it generally resembles a 1954 Plymouth here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plymouth_Belvedere_Wasen.jpg Link to a pic.
Thanks Bob
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On 5/13/2019 at 12:15 PM, casper50 said:
Nice condition and I like the colors as well. Welcome.
Cheers mate.
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On 5/13/2019 at 6:15 PM, Andydodge said:
Craig.........the car looks to be in real nice condition.........especially like the Pearled steering wheel.....was that done by Pearlcraft?...........the colour choices are quite nice, was it an original maroon colour or has it been redone?.........BTW are those black spark plug cap things made of a plastic or Bakerlite material?....they look just like the ones that were on my 1940 Dodge sedan when I got it.......have never seen another set since then...........lol............what engine is in the car?.....23 or 25inch?.............andyd
Mate the car is pretty much as the ol fella restored it ( purchased from deceased estate) so I couldn't get a lot of info on the history Bakerlite caps, and how do I tell the 23" from a 25" donk. Colour same I don't know if its the original. I will look into it, its a 20 year old resto in near mint condition.
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On 9/28/2017 at 4:43 PM, Mike36 said:
John, I knew south Texas had one hell of a rain event recently. But now San Antonio is in Florida ??? WOW !!! Nice Plymouth.
On 9/27/2017 at 7:28 AM, Andydodge said:One coil cut with 2" blocks on the rear, 6x15 and 7x15 Wheel Vintique Chrome Smoothies with 195/65x15 and 235/65x15 Coker Classic Radials, standard wheel backspace cleared front and rear inner/outer and improved steering and general driveability..........andyd
That's what I want to achieve on the D49 Andy I may have to check wheel studs are 5x114.30 for wheel selection
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10 hours ago, Plymouthy Adams said:
Sharp looking car, and I know many have plans to change even new off the floor models when they take ownership, could be the need to follow the current trend in customizing to fit in with the crowd or car club they are associated. Many think the Plain Jane wrappers are well, just that, Plain Jane...kind like the HD crowd where it is not necessarily a motorcycle you buying, its the cult they seeking...I see that the few commenting are saying that the looks of the car is original and should stay that way. Express yourself as you see fit.
Exactly mate, I have no crowd to fit into, I have restored a 69 roadrunner, 73 challenger, 65 satellite, 63 and 66 Nova,70 Camaro ss, 66 Parisian, just to name a few American cars and at least 30 Aussie classics, I know what I like and I just do it regardless what anyone thinks
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11 hours ago, Don Coatney said:
Car looks great with the existing tires, rims, and ride height. What do you expect to gain by "setting her low"?
I like a lower looking car and chrome rims with a wider whitewall, its just my personal choice Don.
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Cheers guys, im in Bunbury Western Australia, Coup looks mint Andy the 55 needs a bit of an adjustment in the looks department but it runs like a top
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G'day.
I found your site just now so I thought I would slip in while no one is looking.
I have this 1955 D49 Aussie built Kingsway in pretty good nic, not the hemi only a flat six.
Im not going to mod it to much just tyres and rims and set her low. so any suggestions on wheel and tyre widths would be appreciated.
Cheers
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