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This is often the time of year when a leaky heater core is first noticed. Coolant dripping from under the dash, steamy vapors drifting out of interior vents and slimy film on the windows are some of the signs. RockAuto.com is ready to help with new heater cores by ACDelco, APDI/PRO, Four Seasons, Motorcraft, OSC, Spectra Premium,  TYC and more. RockAuto.com has heater cores for daily drivers, classics and vehicles that are simply old - everything from a 2009 Acura RL, to a 2002 Hyundai Sonata, to a 1990 Ford Bronco, to a 1984 Volvo 760, to a 1962 Chevy Impala. Visit RockAuto.com and look under "Heat & Air Conditioning" to see the heater cores available for your specific cars and/or trucks.
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Expires: January 12, 2018 Please enter this code in the ‘How Did You Hear about Us’ box to receive the discount. Please enter ONLY the discount code, no other words or numbers. Please note that orders using discount codes must be placed online and the discount code must be entered before an order is submitted to receive the discount. RockAuto.com is an online auto parts store founded in Madison, Wisconsin in 1999 by the Taylor family. RockAuto.com ships thousands of auto parts from over 300 manufacturers to customers worldwide. The RockAuto Catalog includes a full line of mechanical parts, from small items like filters and wiper blades to complete remanufactured transmissions and engine long blocks. The RockAuto catalog also contains a growing number of body parts: door handles, mirrors, sheet metal, bumper covers, even carpets! The RockAuto Catalog includes vehicles from 1945 to today, making it easy to find parts no matter what you drive. Prices on RockAuto.com are reliably low every day! Order online at www.RockAuto.com 24 hours a day.  Parts are conveniently delivered to your door.  Need help finding parts or placing an order?  Visit our Help pages or, if you can't find the answer on our help pages, email service@rockauto.com.
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RockAuto.com - Rebates Expiring Soon!

September is a big month for rebates at RockAuto.com, and there is less than one week left to take advantage of many of them!

Rebates Expiring 9/30/2017:   Up to $100 Cash Back on KYB Shocks and Struts $4 Cash Back on Fram Air & Oil Filters $50 Cash Back on Lund Tonneau Covers 10% Instant Rebate on Üro Parts Control Arms & Ball Joints $20 Cash Back on Stampede Sidewind Deflectors & Hood Protectors 10% Instant Rebate on Autoline Diesel Injection Parts $10 Cash Back on AVS Vent Visors or Hood Shields $50 Cash Back on Lund Fender Flares
 
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2017 RockAuto XOR Adventure Sweepstakes!

RockAuto is teaming up with PowerNation TV again to give away a one-of-a-kind Jeep built by Ian Johnson, straight from the Xtreme Off Road shop! You can win this 1968 Jeepster Commando loaded with performance upgrades. Go online and enter for your chance to win today! Check out the RockAuto Promotions page here to view all current rebates and promotions as well as the giveaway entry form!  
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Cast iron engine

I forgot about this so better get started. One of the most stated responses to the truck is "Oh, you kept the flathead six."". Two days ago an employ at a  tire shop commented " ,those cast iron engines were real s"engines"!  And when it starts on the first cycle, they are impressed. 
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Floor shift concepts for Mopar column shift Transmssions

Howdy folks - Coming from another blog topic, which strayed down a back road, came the idea of  transmissions for Mopar Cars and Trucks that were post 1940 that came with  Column shift and the normally column shift transmission was modified or the linkage was to turn it into a 3 speed floor shift transmission. So this isn't about taking a vehicle that had column shift and putting a transmission for the 1930s or a modern floor shift transmission to make the vehicle floor shift. This is taking say a 1950s r10g1 overdrive and putting it into a 1930s car or a 1950s pickup and making it a floor shift.   It could also be taking a standard 3 speed column shift and making it into a floor shift in that same vehicle. Its not a new concept by any stretch.  My Dad put an r10g1 overdrive from a 1952 Plymouth into a 1951 Fargo pickup truck which had been a 3 speed column shift pickup. He had taken a Fenton floor shifter kit that was a kit to move column shifts and made a bunch of changes to get it to work.  The truck is long gone but we actually recovered the shifter which had been cut off at some point by the person who got the pickup.   I will take some pictures at some point for the fun of it.  We got it moving again but it would be too expensive to try and duplicate.  George has also built a very simplified for racing which is super simple, although I am not sure would work for regular street usage, and he also has one his Uncle Harry Hein's made but duplicating it, is a project that hasn't quite made it to the top of the pile. We also have several pictures of guys who have done them, although most are pretty heavily involved and some quite clunky looking. All that being said, the reason I started this was -  Paul aka    pflaming  had posted a picture of his project of making a traditional 3 speed floor shift Plymouth transmission, and turning it into a floor shift, which really was the impetus for this blog idea.  "The shifter I fabbed from a photo, not my design. It is uncomplicated and will serve my purposes very well. The tranny and OD are not on the engine yet."    
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RockAuto.com Goes Mobile!

It is now easier than ever to find and order auto parts from your mobile device with RockAuto.com’s new mobile catalog! The mobile catalog offers the same huge selection and reliably low prices as the desktop computer catalog, but it is optimized for smart phones and tablets with features including:   Simplified navigation to part descriptions, part photos, Cart, and Order Status & Returns. A side alphabet for quicker access to vehicle Make: tap "C" for Cadillac, tap "M" for Mazda... A handy search bar and Menu button at the top make it easy to head in the right direction. A mobile checkout process with desktop computer convenience. Try out our new mobile catalog by visiting RockAuto.com via your smart phone or tablet! You can also see the new mobile catalog from a desktop computer (It will be jumbo sized!) by clicking "Mobile Site" in the bottom right corner of RockAuto.com.  
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What's New at RockAuto?

At RockAuto.com, the selection of parts grows steadily while prices remain reliably low! Visit RockAuto.com now to see all the parts we currently have for both your classic and daily driver.

Just Some of What is New in 2017!   AutoMeter Gauges More Carter Fuel Pumps Southern Truck Lift Kits, Lights and Accessories APEX Gaskets Transmaxx Transmission Parts Melling Engine Parts  
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George update, and AoK Intake updates

Howdy Folks -  I thought I would do an update on a few topics.  1st the most important one being my buddy George Asche Jr.  George who was hospitalized a few months ago continues to  be regaining his health at a rate  I think everyone including he himself find remarkable.  I was down last week and helped him build another engine and a bunch of other thing.   He continues to work through a long list of promised work, from engines and over drives, to intake, carbs and linkage. The last AoK racing triple intake for the big blocks was finished and shipped out. It is going on a 1937 Chrysler 6 cylinder. A very close to stock engine, with standard pistons, cam and  new undersized bearings. I have enclose a picture of that as well as George finishing off a fresh engine built and  one of the AoK -  George Asche Jr tribute intakes for the USA Small blocks. We down to just 1 or 2 of those . Next topic, intake updates:  As I have talked earlier, with our good friend Tom ceasing operations we had to move the casting of both the Triples for the Canadian 25 1/2" big  block flathead and the USA 23 1/2" dual carb intakes. We also sadly lost the services of George long time friend Bob Stover who was responsible for the machining of the AoK triples from when we 1st started to make them over a decade ago until God gave him the checkered flag and he passed away. Moving to a new supplier also  saw cost increases. We have worked closely with both suppliers as well as looked at other options for having them cast and machined elsewhere.  In the end, we were able to reduce the overall costs, and get the minimum order quantity down to the point that we are going to consider another run of intakes. The cost of the new AoK triple intakes (for the 25 1/2" big block made in Canada)  is going to go up approximately 6%  and will be $525.00 plus shipping. Linkage will range  depending upon what is required, but the standard 3 carb linkage with linkage that can be hooked up to linkage coming across the head will be $195.00. Carbs, are going to be a problem for us to supply rebuilt carbs.    If you have cores and need them rebuilt we may be able to help.  But intake and linkage we should have later this summer On the AoK -  George Asche Jr limited edition dual carb intake for the 23 1/2" USA small block they too will be just under a 6% increase and will be $450.00 plus shipping.   If your already on the waiting list and we have intakes set aside for you, your originally quoted price remains in effect for the intake. If your interested in either, drop us a note and we will get you on our waiting list and/or be happy to discuss your project(s). Thanks Tim Kingsbury and George Asche Jr fargopickupking@yahoo.com   Below pictures are the AoK dual and triple intake that are being set up for the pre-WW2 cars ad all trucks, pickups and powerwagons which have linkage going down the intake/exhaust side of the blocks    
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RockAuto...Part & FAQ Search Made Easy!

The unique RockAuto.com catalog makes it easy to see all the parts we have for your vehicle. Search boxes are available as well to help scroll to your specific vehicle, identify which category a part is listed under or do a Part Number Search. Now you can also use a search box to quickly see answers to the Frequently Asked Questions listed on the RockAuto Help Page. Just a few examples:
Type "core" into a search box and see a list of  the most relevant Help Topics regarding cores, including what a part core is and how to set up a return. Only typing "whol" in a search box is enough to find out what RockAuto Wholesaler Closeouts are. Typing "past" will bring up instructions on how to see your past orders and explain the option of creating a RockAuto account. It is safe for you to assume answers to nearly all your questions about choosing parts, ordering, returns, problems, etc. are available via the search box (or the RockAuto Help Page). We have been serving customers online since the turn of the century. That is a lot of time for questions to earn "frequently asked" status! Even questions you might think are too broad have been frequently asked before such as, "Why are your prices lower than at local stores?" and "Which part has the best quality?" Go ahead, type it in the search box!   http://www.rockauto.com/Images/forum/searchBarForum.png
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The Chrysler A833 Overdrive Trans Conversion Blog
 

Mopar For Mopars Solutions Blog

Okay, here we have it, the no nonsense "Mopar For Mopars" solutions blog. This is a  blog where any or all Mopar solutions can be entered, added, discussed and debated. I am not limiting this to the Chrysler flathead 6 engine, so other Mopar Engines, Drive lines, Transmissions, Ignitiion, Electrical and Suspension, Steering and Brakes. So please share what and how you have done something, utilizing Ma Mopar components and Parts. If you are contemplating some modification however radical post your progress and results. Off topic brands and posts will be deleted, so keep this Mopar as the title suggests. There has been a lot of discussion, Thread Themes, and Ideas that are not Mopar based, so here we have the Topic that focuses on a Chryco answer for our needs.    
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Chrysler Flathead Hi- Perf and Racing

Okay, so here we have a Chrysler Flathead High Performance entry, this will be for all flathead hop up ideas, projects, racing supercharging and turbocharging, heck add in fuel injection or ? Please post your stories, ideas and pics, all are welcome, but please respect the topic, and stay on topic, disputes, conjecture and non Mopar entries will most likely result in content being deleted, repeat offenders will be barred. I am currently running a 228 ina 1955 Fargo pickup, T98 a 4 spd and a Mopar 8 1/4d diff with 3.23 gears. My engine is bone stock, somewhat tired, and is equipped with a AoK Racing cutom built dual carb intake, split exhaust and 2 George Asche built Carter B&B trucks carbs and the linkage all courtesy of Tim Kingsbury. I will post a few pics and videos, and hope some of you do too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6lJrjcz7JU  
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AoK intakes.. Shipping and going going going.. gone

Howdy Folks - Well the good news is  the new AoK dual carb intakes for the 23 1/2" USA small block flathead Mopars  started going out the door last week.  As well  the AoK triples for the 25 1/2" Canadian Big block flathead Mopars that have been sold out for over a year are also available and  shipping.   More details and what the look like on this blog entry. The good and bad news..     Good:    If your on the list for either a dual intake or a triple your covered.    Your intake and if you want linkage,  we will be able to supply them                        at the price point discussed.   Bad: well Maybe Bad: If you haven't ordered an AoK dual intake there are 7 left not spoken for and there are 2 AoK triples for the big blocks not spoken for. After that, there will be no more at this price point  that is for sure and whether we  have any more made with depend on customer demand.   As well we are now out of Carter Ball and Ball cores to build,  so if you  need George to build you up carbs, as of right now you will need to supply cores.   Final piece of news is that if you order intakes, when paid for they can be shipped in less than a week. If you need linkage as well its up to 3 weeks lead time right now to ship and if you need carbs and haven't already ordered intakes and specified carbs, even with cores the lead time right now is at least 3 months and may be longer..   The super thing is George who just turned 85 is still doing them and is the best there is at doing them. The unfortunate part is George is slowing down and no one anticipated the new AoK intakes taking so long and the overwhelming demand for them and carbs when they were ready.   Now that they are coming out of the machine shop all completed, the shear number is overwhelming so it will take some time ..   George also has 4 Performance engine jobs promised and as of today will not be accepting any further engine rebuilds until further notice.     On r6, r7 r10 Mopar overdrives, we will have to see what George has time for, and what his Sons and I can help out with on that front to be able to give anyone a leadtime. As I and many call him, the Flathead Mopar Living Legend  is still going strong, but his ability to work on customer projects outside of the family, will now be very much slowed down. I am sure that is not a major surprise to anyone .   Tim Kingsbury fargopickupking@yahoo,com            
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The Grand Master Turns 85 today !

February 6 1932   my good friend and second Dad, the Grand Master of Flathead Mopars -  George Asche was born.     Yesterday was his surprise Birthday Party and today is George's 85th Birthday!     The picture below  is rumored to be when George Graduated High School, but I think really that should be a diploma of future Flathead Chrysler, Desoto, Plymouth, Dodge/Fargo's mastery !    In the background is his Dad's Dodge truck which George still owns today!   Happy Birthday George!   Oh and if your wondering what George was up to for Birthday. Well  -  Lunch with his Boys at the shop (George III,  Rob and Tim), then building some carbs up, then over to the machine shop for some consulting as the AoK dual carb intakes were rolling through 7 different station.   The picture of  George with the prototype and the very first one to be completed which of course is his birthday present.. lol   A few pictures of the Dual  Carb (23 1/2" USA small block) and Triple Carb (25 1/2" Canadian  Big Block) intakes going through  the steps,  and being test fitted on blocks setup with exhausts so that every intake has been checked for a perfect fit.   Then it was off for Supper in Knox (Horse Thief Capital of the World) and  back to George's shop and setting up tomorrows trip, which is believe it or not, were heading down to pick up George's Uncle Harry Hiens -  #90 who is in the Nascar  Hall of Fame. Harry lives in Mars PA.  Were bringing him up to check out the AoK intakes and take George's newest 1929 Desoto  for a ride!  
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My Dads Original " 1938 Desoto/Plymouth "Approved Service" double sided porcelain dealer sign.

This was my Dad's  original 1938 Desoto -  Plymouth Approved Service Dealer Sign. My Grandfather  had a later Desoto-  Plymouth sign and a Chrysler -  Fargo Trucks sign hanging on the outside of his shop, which he built after he retired from Chrysler Corporation. It was a 42" sign and of course Dad always admired it.     When Grandfather passed away the signs were sold at auction and the pair sold for $18,500 and after their sale Dad almost immediately started looking for one.  Years later on his first trip to our friend George Asche's he smiled when he saw George had one hanging  on his garage.     I took a picture of the pair of them in front of the garage and it became one of Dad and George's favourite pictures.   The meeting of the Northern and Southern Flathead Mopar minds.  In any case, it would be about a decade later when Dad would  finally see one come up for auction and of course it wound up costing more than  did the one that sold at Grandfathers Auction. During the lead up to the auction it came to light that dealer sign was an original 1938 sign and as we checked out the sign measured it, and then compared it to the one that sold at Grandfathers sale, there was indeed a slight difference in size.  Grandfathers was 42" and this one was 45". Grandfathers, well it had made its way back to Chrysler and was on display at the Walter Chrysler Museum. Given its age, it was in remarkable conditions when found (see picture of the pre-restoration sign) but after speaking to George who wished he had restored the enamel instead of painting its spots missing enamel, and speaking to the Curator at the Walter Chrysler museum it was decided to have it restored  by the best we could find.  It underwent a world class restoration on the few areas that needed attention, by the leading enamel sign restoration company, Don Van Kannel  - Van Kannel Sign Restoration and it is in absolutely spectacular condition. Sadly its restoration would take a number of years, and Dad would pass away without ever seeing it finished. The family has wrestled with keeping it, or selling it.  It had been appraised at $10,000 prior to it being restored and with the restoration cost, the imminent sale of Mom and Dad's place it really didn't make sense to keep it. So we put it up for sale and also consigned it to a large automotive memorabilia auction.   We got a few  people express interest, and a couple of trade offers, but nothing serious, so off it went to the automotive memorabilia auction with no reserve but a guarantee for the auction company on the minimum sale price. As our luck has seem to have gone lately, the sign appeared to sell at the auction for well above the guarantee the auction company had provided us.  But a couple of days after the  auction we were told that the buyer had failed  complete the sale.   Grrrrrrr, what else can you say.   So the Sign today will go back up for sale, on Ebay and locally.   Here is the listing -   http://www.ebay.com/itm/252734854732?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649   We have put it up for sale at way less that we have in the sign, but it needs a new home and we would really like to see it go to a new home.   The asking price is $7500 and that is pretty close to  a firm number. We might consider a trade for something, but it will need to be something one of the family wants, and then they will put the cash into the estate. If you have any questions feel free to drop me a note at fargopickupking@yahoo.com Thanks for your time   Tim Kingsbury
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The Living Legend,Shirley Muldowney's Mother has passed awa

Shirley Muldowney's Mom,  Mae Scarborough Roque passed away today, in her 100th year.   I had the chance to chat  With Mrs Rogue. What a wonderful lady. How proud she was of her "little girl" putting those boys in their place on the track. In her 100th year She had quite a life.    Our condolences to Shirley and the entire family       Mae Scarborough Roque
JANUARY 3, 1918 - JANUARY 9, 2017
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Single Carb Intake, Dual Carb Intake, Triple Carb Intake, why not more ?

·         ·       For Decades I have listened to people talk about Flathead Mopar 6 Cylinder Engines in terms of intakes, what is the best carb configuration for their particular situation.      Discussions on putting two carbs and those who claim to be sure that is too much carburation or that it will use to much fuel. Then every once in a while the discussion of 3 carbs comes up, and that almost always sparks the debate on how it would take a race motor to need it, or how the engine will bog, or run poorly.   In the last 20 years with a good friend of the AoK boys coming across a huge stash of 2 barrel carter weber carbs which were designed for slant six engines, the discussion on utilizing a 2 barrel instead of two singles comes up.   I just smile, but then I know that when the stash of 2 barrel carter webers were found, its finder  put them on his website as a carb for a flathead mopar.  Its amazing how a market can be created and how quickly – “this is the way to go” spreads like rapid fire, without as much as any background check into something.   But 1st, let me go back to the 1st time I heard the discussion on multiple carbs vs a single multi-barrel carb, or  put another way, comparing that “old technology carter ball and ball vs a modern 4 barrel carb”..   It was about 45 Years ago, when I 1st  heard someone in a conversation with my Grandfather and my Dad, suggesting they knew a lot about Flathead Mopars and were  sporting a 4 barrel carb on a homemade intake. This gentleman had played with flathead Ford v8s and had came across a Dodge 2 door sedan from the mid-50s.  He was suggesting he had built the ultimate flathead Chrysler Engine and he was one of those guys that whatever he had at the moment was just the best and the only way to go.  Well after my Dad explained he had far from the ultimate flathead Chrysler, and that his wife’s daily driver (my Mom) was good enough to kick his ass, Dad pulled out my Mom's pickup.  It was sporting a bored out 265, with a cam, a factory dual intake and exhaust with a pair of carter ball and balls, and an a833 4 speed tranny.  After a little bit of fun that really wasn't much of a contest, licking his wounds sort of speak, Mr "Ultimate Flathead Chrysler" started down the road of excuses when Grandfather shook his head and cut him off at the pass.    Grandfather like my Dad were automotive Engineers, and Grandfather literally knew more about Chrysler Flatheads than any person alive. Given he saw the very 1st flathead roll of the line in Windsor, Ontario Canada in 1935 and saw the last block cast in 1959, he had some pretty good credentials to give a lecture. What is explained in a few minutes was not only how the flathead engine worked, but why the engine this gentleman had came with only 1 carb failed to perform. Most think that 1 carb was put on the engine and that it has sufficient carburation for the engine, and if it needed more, Chrysler Engineers would have put more on.   On a basic level that is true, but what engineering was building was an engine to a specific HP, torque  and fuel consumption target and not to get the most out of the engine, make it as efficient as possible or even have it run to anything close to 100% optimum performance.  By Optimum  performance I am not talking maximum  hp or maximum rpm or optimum fuel mileage on a vehicle.   Grandfather then explained that in fact when Chrysler was faced with the need to meet a 5 ton truck specification for dump/plow trucks asked for by Canadian Municipalities during the winter of 1950, that the requirement  had  filtered to engineering in late 1950. They  developed the 265 ci motor which was 3 7/16" bore and 4 3/4" stroke and have dual carbs and dual exhaust on them, which was what was in Mom’s pickup.  Few realize that that engine actually had more hp than any other engine on the market.  I will attach the picture of the poster that was on Grandfathers office at the time.  I gave it to George Asche Jr years ago.   In any case you can see the hot v8 mopar had in 1952 was 133 hp and the flathead 6 had more hp. As an aside Grandfather with the cam grind out of the 1952 Chrysler that engine exceeded 150 hp at the time, but given the time, energy and money that have been invested in the new Hemi v8 that was never going to see the light of day on any marketing information. That engine and the fact it had a factory intake, immediately became a stock car favorite in the 1952 season, when Mopar dominated stock car racing everywhere it landed. In any case Chrysler didn't just put on a second carb on it because they needed more carburation.  By then Chrysler already had Carter building Ball and Ball carbs from 85cfm -  425 cfm each and we now know they had a 625 cfm carter ball and ball single barrel carb if they needed it. The reason for two was the basic issue, some would call flaw, but Grandfather  would call basic restriction to taking the engine to the next level.  I say that folding back to the earlier point that Chrysler was building engine to a spec of "x" hp, "y" torque and "z" fuel consumption.   The flathead 6 build by Chrysler has 3 Siamese intake ports,  each of which feed two cylinders.  Setting aside the exhaust for a second, and keeping in mind that an engine is really just a giant vacuum pump, putting 1 carb in the middle of the block, basically over the middle intake port feeding cylinders 3 and 4, means that if all cylinders are the same in compression ratio and ability to create vacuum and suck in a fuel mixture coming from the carb, then cylinder 3 and 4 are going to get more fuel than the intake ports feeding cylinders 1 and 2   or 5 and 6.   Yes Chrysler made intake modifications to help that, but they again were not trying to make the perfect engine, just have it meet specs required. As  a little aside if your look at intakes from the 1930s through to the 50s you will notice Chrysler Engineers raised the level of the carb. With the Dual Carb truck intake it also was raised further with governors placed under the carbs.   The height of the carb mounting above the intake posts can easily be seen to rise from the 1930s to the 1950s.  Its also why if your look at some of the aftermarket dual intakes made in the 30s and compare them to say the 3rd generation Edmunds in the 50s you will notice a huge difference in height. The raising of the carbs and providing a smoother run from carb to the intake ports saw huge benefits in performance. Of course maybe buried in the story is the fact that early intake was designed for a marine application where quick rev was far more the desired trait than was torque.   When the intake was moved to an automotive application you would find a quick rev with the clutch engaged, but disengaged there is a significant loss in torque and it will actually burn more fuel than a single carb.   But back to my story, if we now add the exhaust component into your stock Mopar flathead (or L-head)  which depending on what year engine and what vehicle,  has the single exhaust exiting at one of a few  different locations. For this discussion lets  say it exits at the back as does the post ww2 cars.     What you find is as the cylinders push out exhaust there is almost no restriction or back pressure at cylinders 5 and 6,  but there is a great deal of back pressure at cylinders 1 and 2.      So here we have the most back pressure making it tough to push away the exhaust and actually the front intake port receiving the least amount of fuel.  While the engine meets specs with no problem, its clear that if you can balance the exhaust, by having 3 exhaust cylinders exit through 1 exhaust pipe and the other three through a 2nd pipe, you can better balance the exhaust back pressure.  We sort of glossed over the fact that while there are only 3 intake ports, each cylinder does have its own exhaust port.   Something that changed with the introduction of the slant 6, which had  6 equal intake runners each feeding a cylinder.   Back to the flathead,  if we can better distribute fuel to balance the opportunity for each of the 3 Siamese ports to get fuel, then the engine will run more efficiently.    So if you were to take a big block 25 1/2" engine, and anyone of them, not just the 265 and put the factory dual carb and dual exhaust setup on it and then put on the appropriate carter ball and ball carb on it, it will gain hp, torque and improved fuel mileage.  The reason is it runs more efficient.  The same takes place with the 23 1/2" USA small block which has the same intake and exhaust configuration, although slightly smaller ports.   If you take it one step further,  putting 1 carb on top of each intake port,  you can provide the optimum amount of fuel efficiency for the engine. Back to our 4 barrel friend,  putting on a large carb  just  provides a further opportunity to over fuel the center siamese intake port.  When he hammered the throttle it was actually not able to burn all of the fuel in the middle two cylinders and was “bogging” ,until it could gain enough RPM to use some of the fuel.    When he was running against Mom’s pickup which had more balanced back pressure, and a better distribution of fuel he had no chance even if the engines were internally the same. Of course they weren't but that is another story.  Years later when we created the AoK triple intake, we placed the first intake on  an almost rock stock 201 ci motor.  It had been rebuilt stock, although required to be bored out 10 thou to clean up cylinders. Beyond that it was a stock cam, intakes etc.  With 3 of the smallest CFM carter ball and ball carbs on board and headers made from a stock exhaust systems, the car ran smoother, had better acceleration and  got 6 miles per gallon better highway mileage over the single carb and single exhaust.    In the end, it is just a myth that you need some bored out, cammed up engine for 2 carbs and a full race motor for 3 carbs. The reason why Chrysler didn't run 3 carbs was simple. 1) The cost of 3 carbs was no inconsequential  2) They could meet the HP, Torque and Fuel useage targets with 1 carb.  The exception was when there was a time window where the dual carb, dual exhaust 265 ci motor was released, but with overhead valve v8s and Hemi's coming shortly after the multiple carb flathead life-cycle was short lived.   There is a bit more it than that. I have glossed over a bunch of the engineering parts of why you don't just put a carb directly to each intake port with no equalization tube, but I am sure you get the drift. Unlike a v8 where you might try and make carbs progressive because your feeding a intake plenum that equally or close to equally feeding all 8 cylinders, the flathead engine has 3 intake ports each feeding 2 cylinders so progressive carbs just are not effective.  On the flathead Mopar, with either 2 or 3 carbs you want them to produce the exact same fuel to feed each of the Siamese ports exactly the same. Its not progressive in terms of additional barrels or carbs, its progressive by pushing on the gas peddle.    The key is making sure both or all three carbs are identical and that you have linkage that operates all of them exactly the same.    Its a common misconception that they must be hard to keep synced. We have engines with tens of thousands of miles on them with multiple carbs and are never adjusted.  George Asche's 1929 Desoto that he has owned since 1950 likely has an unbelievable amount of miles on it and likely the  carbs were only touched when George has redone the engine.  I own vehicles with 100,000 + miles on them and the linkage for the dual carbs has never touched. That has a lot to do with just how good Carter Ball and Ball carbs are..  We also get asked  quite often about modifying the block to provide 6 intake ports, or using webers or other carbs, or running fuel injection.   Dad and Grandfather with too much time on their hands, as my Mother would say,  did modify a couple of engines to provide 6 intake ports. There were several  intakes made including one with an 18" runner set on it, one with 6 side draft webers and one with modified hilborn fuel injection. At the end of the day, with various levels of success, nothing seems to outperform an Edmunds triple carb intake with riser blocks and 3 matched 1952-56 Truck carbs on them and maybe with some jetting changes.   Of course, since then we have developed a couple of new cam profiles and of course the AoK  triple which utilizes better and modern casting technology, as well as better flow bench testing and computer modelling that neither Chrysler or Eddy Edmunds had.    Have we thought about digging out the 6 intake port block that is still in Dad's shop, well yah we have, but that is another project and a blog entry for another time.    
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Merry Christmas & Happy New Years from the AoK boys

Well folks as 2016 starts to wind down we reflect on the year and what a different year it has been. It seems like just yesterday the new year started and here we are in December! What a magical month December is. The countdown to Christmas is well under way. Santa Claus parades throughout the world. Cities and towns lit up every night with fabulous Christmas light displays. School kids and churches putting on Christmas plays and pageants. Hopefully hearing the sounds of coins and bills dropping in to the bottom of the Salvation Army red kettle drums and other charities receiving support for all the great work they do.   The elves at the North Pole working furiously to satisfy the wishes from the tons of letters arriving at the North Pole. Hockey fans counting down the days until the IIHF U20 World Junior Hockey Championship tournament begins (Had to throw in some Canadian Hockey influence here)  and visions of getting your Mopar out next spring dancing in many automotive enthusiasts  head. I am sure every Mopar fan has made their list of parts they hope to find under the tree Christmas day, and I am sure a lot of good Girls and Boys will find a few Mopar related items boxed up for them.   I definitely know the AoK boys shipped a lot of stuff to the North Pole recently as, well we subcontract to Santa for some of those harder Mopar items that his elves have a difficult time to make!  lol       We often get Christmas cards and Christmas wishes, many come in different forms as technology evolves.   Here is one of our favourites containing a lot of our favourite things -  a Fargo pickup (great for hauling presents), a little Mopar Period Performances additions, and of course that it has Santa !     On behalf of the Asche family; George Jr and his sons  George III & Rob,  the Kingsbury family; Tim   and his son Dan, collectively  known as the AoK boys, we wish one and all a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Years!    
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AoK George Asche Jr Ltd Edition Intake - now available!

Finally the AoK George Asche Jr Ltd Edition Intake for the all  23 1/2" USA flathead Mopar engines has been completed and is in production. The pictures below has prototype linkage for the 1933-1938 Cars and all trucks and power wagons. You may notice that the left carb linkage bar has been cut short, and is not hooked to the left carb. That is strictly for prototype purposes and the production versions have a longer bar  That allows for a linkage bar to come down from each carb to the common rail. It does shows how the serial number and linkage block provides the spot for stock linkage components to be mounted and then integrated with the new AoK linkages. That is critical for the earlier cars and trucks. You will notice for this version we are using the outside "wings"  for  linkage mounts. For newer cars where we want the linkage rail mounted on the inside, there are inside  "wings"  that are drilled and the rail is then on the inside wings. The outside block will then just be the serial number plate. Early cars and trucks are different in that they are on the outboard side of the intake, but they also have different connection points for the carbs to the common rail  as compared to later model cars.. George has the linkage working perfectly for the several different applications.  If you are going to be using this on the truck or older car you would just use your stock brackets and the AoK linkage will just integrate with it, to give you the desired upgrade from the single to dual carbs. Oh yes, and hot debate on the name.. Our original intent was to have the writing read from the passenger side although you may notice it was reversed to be read from the other side.  In the production version, we have got the writing of "AoK George Asche Jr Ltd Ed" turned around and in a different font than the prototype. There were a couple of minor changes to the prototype, including making the outboard linkage mounting block slightly bigger, changing the name and a couple of internal items.   Today the 1st batch of production intakes are being poured. That process will continue for the balance of the week, they are heat treated and shipped to us.  We need to have the casted intakes machined, tapped and threaded which should see the 1st intakes ready to ship in the next 4-6 weeks. * Dec 3rd note: That casting turned out to be 1 being cast with the slight change talked about above. That one was heat treated and shipped to us. We called back and said why did you just ship us only 1.  The reply, they wanted to be really sure it was correct. They were given the go to cast a production run and more of our Big Block Triples which have been sold out for months. They have no been all cast and are off for heat treating on Monday.   The intake has been a long time coming, even more so given the prototype was completed almost a year and a half ago. Now -   down to the brass tacks as my Grandfather would have said -   Cost !
Feb 8 2017 Were committed to the pricing of $425 for the 1st shipment as we feel customers have waited a long time patiently for the product and that was our original    We will be  repricing them upwards slightly as the development cost and the casting price has escalated well beyond where the estimates were when we started. Just the casting price is up 73%  which is an increase in the price of the aluminum.

For linkage, if customers want us to make them linkage, it will start at $150 and really depends on what linkage is required.   By that I mean if a customer needs linkage for a 1933 Desoto, and if they don't have the linkage block tab, we can get that piece and will sell it at our cost, but it is a relatively expensive part.  If the customer has theirs and most do, then we will clean theirs up and paint it for them at no extra cost. If its linkage for a  1946-48 Plymouth, then it is very straight forward.

Built carter ball and ball carbs are  $195.00 each and  the will be Siamese twins, meaning they will be exactly the same in their venture, throttle bore sizing and jetting, with all new kits in them and if a customer buys the entire package, George will mount the carbs, linkage, adjust everything and the customer wont have to pay anything extra for that or the carb gaskets.  * Note if you already ordered your intake with carbs, the price quoted you is still in effect, even though the cost of full rebuild kits just went up significantly.


Shipping is extra and is at cost, or the customer can use their shipping preference  and if they have an account utilize that.  We don't charge for packing or handling.


Our address is   George Asche/Tim Kingsbury 1693 fertigs Road,  Fertigs, PA 16364     

I can be reached directly at Fargopickupking@yahoo.com  and we will accept
paypal if it is send via family and friends so were not paying the paypal fee as there
is literally no margin on these 1st batch of intakes.  We will also accept a cheque,  money order or if your
driving by,  cash!
  A few notes: 1) We will also be receiving a small number of the AoK triple intakes for the Canadian 25 1/2" big blocks. They have been sold out for over a year now so if you were looking for one of those we  will be able to ship finished triples by year end.  Cost for those is $495 and linkage pricing depends on what your using it for and what linkage is required but typically ranges from $150-$200. 2)  Headers made from OEM exhaust manifolds are available for both the USA small blocks and the Canadian big blocks. The last picture is  from my 1949 Plymouth Business coupe which has a Canadian 265 ci motor in it and the AoK Triple. Its the same basic look for either the 23 1/2" small block or 25 1/2" big blocks. 3)  We now have a source for reproduction GMC (not the Chevy versions with major air restrictions).  You can get replacement air filters for them and they are available in Chrome tops or  Black. The Black versions are $125.00 and Chrome ones are $138.00. You can  see them here in a video posted by Fred Buhay. 4) The Big Note to be aware of:  We expect to be able to ship finished intakes early next week, but there is not some big pile of built carbs or linkage sets made up and ready to ship and George hand makes every piece of linkage and rebuilds every carb completely from top to bottom.   So if your looking for linkage or carbs or both, on top of an intake, get your order in early as I expect to see a big back log in short order.  To date we have note taken orders or money, but have put people on a waiting list.  Everyone on that waiting list were alerted 48 hours ago and right now 1/2 of the 1st production run has been spoken for.   There is no fear that we will be unable to get people intakes, but the question of when we can supply is potentially a question. Finally if you would like us to call you and answer questions about either intake, we are happy to. Just drop me an email to fargopickupking@yahoo.com  with your phone number and when is a good time to contact you and George or I will give you a call.                   below is the AoK triple on my 1949 Plymouth Business Coupe.
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