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AoK announcement on a new Dual Carb intake for the USA flathead 6


timkingsbury

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Originally Posted 29 November 2014 - 09:54 PM

Howdy Folks -

As discussed on the forum under various topics, my father Eddy Kingsbury, George Asche, his boys Rob and George III along with a buddy and myself developed a triple carb intake for the Canadian 25 1/2" big block flatheads.

We used the 50's triple that Eddy Edmunds produced and dramatically improved the flow of the intake as well as made a number of changes to the design to dramatically improve the performance (torque and RPM) over other multiple carb intakes

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We did not develop that intake for commercial purposes, but for use on our rear engine dragster and a couple of personal projects.

I put the setup on my 1949 Plymouth business coupe (sporting a modified 265 ci motor) and am currently getting ready to put it on a 1956 Fargo pickup.

If you want to see it in action on my car or the dragster I have uploaded a view video's on youtube.

https://www.youtube....7YNWI2Rnnvn8rig

I had mentioned in my post under the tatterfield intake thread that we have thought about doing a dual carb intake for the USA built 23 1/2" block engines.. aka all your P15/D24 cars.

Well the feedback over the past week has been absolutely unexpected. Heck we have already had 2 guys wanting to send checks

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Today we have decided to proceed with the project! So there will be an AoK Dual Carb intake for the USA 23 1/2" flathead 6 cylinder mopars !

We basically already have all the research and the majority of testing done when we created our triple for the big block. We have had a number of car guys who are unhappy with the performance of the offy's (lots of rev but looses torque over stock) or other intakes and who are seeing huge prices for vintage Edmunds intakes, ask us to consider making a dual carb setup. We also know with lots of our triples out there to confirm our triple is outperforming the super rare Edmunds triple, that we are confident a dual carb setup would outperform any similar intake ever produced.

Our big advantage is not only is there better flow and other testing instrumentation available to us today, but foam core casting just allows for a product that could not have been made in the 40's-60's, when all of the dual carb intakes were designed.

We have spent several hours with our machinist / intake genius, who takes our designs and turns them into reality.

He will start the core development Monday !

Things we still have to finalized

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1) Whether we put a water tube integrated in the intake as Edmunds did with 2 of his versions.

Note: we know it is not required, there is no measurable performance increase and the carbs don’t ice without it. But the customers are always right on what they want and a number of guys have asked for them. It required another core mold, and will require us or the customer to prep and tap both sides to it can be plumbed.

2) Whether we put the tabs or a large tab on the outside of the tube so that it can be used for trucks and older mopars. The tabs are drilled and tapped to mount linkage. (I’ve attached a picture of a factory truck intake.)

3) Whether we put the linkage tabs (like Eddy Edmunds did) on the inside (block side) of the intake or the outside of the carbs. Edmunds started off with none, then went to the inside and the last ones were all on the outside. None of the other intakes even have them.

The easy answer would be do what all the ones being produced now do which is don’t do anything, but heck the Kingsbury and Asche's never do the easy angle if it is just to avoid work or time to produce a better product !

4) Finally, what the name will be beside "AoK" lol... I know falls into the minor category.

Right now it is looking like an AoK dual carb intake, machined, with the truck linkage tab(s)

We will, as several suggested serialize each intake

Thanks again for everyone who has sent notes, called us and provided input on the project

Tim Kingsbury and George Asche

AoK Racing and Asche Mechanical Distributors

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Update since November 29th announcement!

Thanks to the fabulous feedback we received from forum  members we have finalized a lot of things.

  1. We are planning on the water tube integrated into the intake. It will be a “foam core” mold so it will be a nicely integrated tube running along the bottom of the intake.  It will be optional, in that it can be used or left unused.  We will need to thread each end of the hole so it can be plumbed.
  2. Unlike any of the ones available today, we will have tabs that can be used for linkage similar to Edmunds.  But we will do what do one has ever done, and that is have those tabs on each side of the carb base/mount. This will allow for linkage to be mounted on either side or can be left undrilled so that other linkage options that might be more appropriate for certain applications can be used. 
  3. We will have one large tab mounted slightly below center of the intake that can be used for truck or older car linkage, as well as used for the location of a serial number. So yes each of the limited edition intakes will have a serial number attached to them and for the fun of it, we will track who has them and what application they are using them on .
  4. We will have the AoK name on the intake and will use a suggestion from a couple of members in addition to that badging, although will keep that a secret for the moment.

 

On the progress, there has been amazing progress on the project.   My right hand man and buddy Tom started the core development on December 1st. (see the attached picture of the foam core in yellow that was for our triple).

 

He finished the core mold development this past Wednesday which I would say was well ahead of schedule.   He started the core mold for the water jacket, which in the grand scheme of things is a pretty minor item, and should have that finished by mid-next week.  At that point, he will start the development of the outer molds.   Will any luck before Christmas we may have some pictures of the development progress and the core.  

 

Fingers crossed anyways

 
 
 
 
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On Carbs,  well it depends on what you are using it for,  but in general carter ball and ball carbs is what we use generally.   Thats maybe  a topic I should do on the blog.  On shipping to the UK, oh absolutely. We have already shipped an AoK triple carb intake to England, complete with carbs, linkage and a set of headers. Keep in mind this dual intake will be for the USA flathead mopar which is the shorter 23 1/2" block verses the Canadian flathead Mopar which is the larger 25 1/2" block.

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